Well i need help like crazy

BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

First, there should be a Help I KNOW I have ghosts option!...This is kind of a long story and I am going to try to shorten it as much as I can.

Ive tryed to do research a few times but its hard to find quality information on something few people understand or even believe.

It has been over a year now that i have been surrounded by the same presence. But let me go a little farther back. 3 years ago now my brother passed away in a tragic way that destroyed almost everything that I was. This incedent took me through severe depression. But I am sure my sanity never broke. About a year and six months after this happened is when things started getting weird, which was about a year and 4 months ago.

A few friends of mine said they had a ghost in their apartment and they were girls so they were a little skittish about it. Eventually they calmed down and even went so far as to give it a horrible name like guppy. Im not the type to be close minded so i believed their story but then again, seeing is truely believing.

Now in life you sometimes get down and I think this is true for most. A few weeks after hearing there story i was in one of those states. I get down but rarely down to the depths ive been so it wasnt a big thing. I dont consider myself religous but somewhat spiritual so i pray. I was asking for help...just looking for a way to figure things out...my life in general. Around this time is when the issue started.

That night I went to get into bed and something about the atmosphere made me feel freaked out and even scared. Scared enough to put my phone in the bed right next to me for comfort haha. So im laying there with my phone beside me and it kind of starts moving on my body. Nothing too big so i budge it away thinking its gravitating towards the impression im making in the bed. Starts moving again...Ok now im a little freaked out. So i put my phone on the other side of my bed and i watch it. I watch it as it turns and moves towrad me. So now im freaked out like I have neer been in my life.

Eventually I calm down and am understanding of the situation...it wants something with my phone right. So i open it and kind of let my finger hover above the keys. This is where it essentially starts "texting" me messages. This day in age huh. After being curious and talking to it every once in a while, to figure out whats going on, i realize that while it is pointing my thumb in typing fashion that i can hear it speaking. Not like an audible voice but kind of like you are talkin to yourself but i wasnt in control.

Now this thing can move doors, has moved my phone and can make its presence felt physically but not on a severe level. Its like you have to know what to look for when it touches you and then you def know.

Its lied mulitiple times and has gotten me in trouble in my more gulible stages of this incounter. Worrying about friends...about myself..situations. And then i realize that its lying to get some entertainment out of watching me squirm.

So i began to attempt to ignore it. Every now and then a word slips through from its end or I cave and speak to it, usually in my more unsure situations that i encounter. But i try to remind myself to not do that. I pray my ass off, in general just about life, recently to be free of this extra weight that i experience from the unexplainable.

Ive had few problems with it except an issue i have run into a few times. this is personal which is why im kind of glad my name is confidential on a board like this. Im 22 yrs old and in very decent shape. Believe me when it comes to sex im READY TO Go you understand. So when it came to me being ready to go, all the way down to being without clothing and right before i was about to do soemthing about it...im talking like mere seconds...Im not ready to go anymore. Now i no there are some problems with this in the general public but like i said, age..decent shape and im fairly confident in myself.

This is when i realized this thing had some control over my life..I guess in the cases it happened it may have been for the better. But the fact is that should never be the case. Also when i realized that it was inside of me and/or in some position to control some aspect of control i have over myself. So i concentrated...and realized that i could push it away...but this is concentration that takes tons of focus and its hard to do in some situations!

I forgot to mention in the beginning it tryed to convince me to kill myself and do this or that...which is where i came across info on bad entities. Lying and trying to convince you to do the wrong thing. Its said that people with some sort of personal "light" attract things like this because they missed thier oppurtunity at it or have chosen not to try because of fear of punishment.

Im a psych major. Believe me i even tryed to convince myself that i was scytsophrenic because when it comes to the unknown you are often totally unsure, especially in the first encounter. But the fact is. I can stop it from talking to me and I KNOW that it is not a mental issue. Infact a few others have seen it when i point it out. or seen it move a door. and my little brother has felt it. All which after i figured the whole situation out bothered the fuck out of me that i subjected others to possible problems. This is my issue and i wouldnt wish this on someone who doesnt know better.

This leaves room for explaination on its appearence. To tell you the truth it doesnt have much physical form unless it is dark...after your eyes adjust to a room with no inside light and maybe some blinds with a little illumination from a far away street light type of dark. Its a shadow almost which is why i think it can only be seen in the dark . I think it absorbs darkness in a way that cant be had in the light. Now for me since i know what ot look for i can rarely see like maybe the outlines of physical features on a face.

Ive seen a pastor or two that i know had similar or know of similar situations. I tryed to keep it on the low because even priestes or pastors or the like shrug these things off and say go see someone...i think that is bullshit that some people who speak about the spiritual world every day of thier lives push it off as biological or a science problem.

I also saw a therapist around a year ago for six months but for issues not involving the one im having. It was more about my brother and my issues with that. I knew better than to mention this to someone who studies science of the human to a phd level. Thats askin for medication and the loss of friends thinkin youre a wack job.

I need relief...sorry for the long discription but i figured i would get everything out of the way. Any advice?

Oh and by the way...i think its a little angry because my hands have been fairly ice cold since i started trying to research again and type this

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Aug Thu 23, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Well i need help like crazy

First of all, i'm really sorry to hear about your loss! DEATH REALLY SUCKS! Crying or Very sad

In regards to the experiences you have mentioned, I really don't know how to respond. I guess my first response would be, please give us more specific/exact details about each of these experiences. I already know you don't want to hear this, but my second response would be to check out the following page:

Seeing/Hearing/Sensing Dead People? - Get Help Here!

BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Ok two questions in one
In a textin fashion…like meaning I let my thumb go totally limp and it would move where it wanted to go…like if it wanted to spell think it would be like 84465 …t.h.i.n.k ..and after about a week or so yea I could hear it spelling out a word…and I was like…. in my mind, can I fukin “hear” you and it was like yes you can you just have to concentrate. No I don’t say the words out loud. Its all like a telepathy thing. Like when your thought process works..Like everyday. You say, “Oh shit I have to do this or that” or like “damn that girl is cute I should talk to her” or anything…I Mean I know im not the only one in the world who thinks in a form of “talking to themselves” in a way.

To go back to ? #1 it told me about 4 diff stories about who it was…like a girl from Virginia who got in a car accident, to a young boy..from when my college was first open that killed himself , to convincing me that it was my brother who had passed away. Because it could play on any situation I had been through….even forgotten memories…like alright…my brother about 5 months before he died bought me a pair of shoes….he was one of the only ones that actually really referred to them as shell toes. And it was like see those shell toes on the floor next to your bed….i bought those for you. I never referred to them as that in my life and never really would recall anyone calling them that until I heard that. I was skeptical up until that point of it trying to convince me it was my bro until I heard that then I fuckin cried because that is one of the few things that would hit home if I heard it

Ok about the how it lied thing. Like it would convince me…that the girl I was talking to at the time would break up with her bf for me and then a world of shit was going to happen. Like we were going to die together because of it. Because it said it happened in a past life time. Soooo it was going to happen again. Now granted she did break up with her bf because of me…which was after I told her all of this…that never happened. Like I was worried that the situation we were in was going to cause something to make that happen. But it didn’t…She btw is one of the few that have actually SEEN this thing and it freaked her the fuck out because she saw the dark shadow beside me and felt cold and all of that.

I know there are medical explanations for going limp…but not instantaneously…like you are strapped up ready to go…then you go to make the final move and then its like a flat tire….we are talking drag racing here…like its on the final yellow and it is in transition here between green and yellow and the clutch is being released, tires are gripping and then one goes flat type of flat tire.

And a physiatrist is different than a therapist. A physiatrist is an MD with a psyc degree and the ability to prescribe meds…a therapist is Psych Phd that cant prescribe meds but can diagnose you with major disorders. And I thought about telling her. And it wasn’t about giving in…it was about her studying the science of life/mind…as compared to those that are out side of the science of to mind…there is no “science” that is unexplained. If its science it has a definition. It has been studied and restudied. And has a definition…this has no definition…But at the same time has roots dating as far back as the beginning of language which is why its absurd that people cant understand

I can deal with it. It has only tried to convince me to do harm to myself a few times. I am smarter than that and have way too much to live for to fall into a trap like that. Its just when it has an ability to take over any aspect of my life its something I am pissed about. I don’t hear voices all the time….if it was all the time I would be worried. The fact that I can turn it in on or off is something where most would think it’s a mental problem is where I distinguish the two. Those with schizophrenia are not able to turn off the “voices” that tell them to do things…also many of them have other multiple symptoms that define them as schizophrenic.

Me I have a problem…it’s a sprit not a ghost…its fukin stuck here but more importantly its stuck to me right now. And although me having kids is far off…I do not want it anywhere near my children or even my family. So I came looking for help..not that im pushing aside any info you can give….but I am just looking for info or help…if you cant provide it then that’s ok because ill keep praying. And searching. This is real…no bull shit…I don’t need an investigation to confirm it. And im not looking to piss ya off here…but the fact is I need help….its not immanent. But id like to be relieved of the pressure it causes.

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Aug Fri 24, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:

Wow.... So, basically in the beginning you would use your phone as a Ouija Board and your thumb as a planchette. That's a new one....

- How would you go about deciphering the messages, since there are 3 letters on each keypad?

- Did you ask "it" questions and it would spell out answers or did it spell out messages without being asked anything?

- Did you ask a lot of yes/no questions or did you ask for detailed/complex answers?

Being that Ouija Boards are of special interest to me, I actually tried to do what you're saying, by holding on to the phone and relaxing my thumb on the same hand over the keypads, while asking questions. I only tried it for a few minutes, because I felt silly Laughing

, but my thumb never moved. That's definitely interesting though. If anyone else wants to try it, be sure to let us know what kind of results ya get!

As far as being able to actually hear what is being spelled out with your thumb over the keypad, that's pretty farout! I really don't have a clue what to say about that, except for you are clearly what is known as "sensitive" or having "the third eye" or "the sixth sense". I already posted a link to the article I wrote about sensitives for you, which outlines all of my thoughts on the subject. Beyond that, I really just don't know what else to say....

- Have you always been able to see/hear/feel/sense spirit presence or did this only start after your brother passed away?

- Aedryan
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BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Wow.... So, basically in the beginning you would use your phone as a Ouija Board and your thumb as a planchette. That's a new one....

I never thought of it like that because i never got into things like that. I was always a believer in spirits and everything but you can open the wrong doors and get sucked into TV screens on indian burial grounds type of poltergiest stuff haha..

- How would you go about deciphering the messages, since there are 3 letters on each keypad?

I know it was difficult for a little because some even have two words for the same sequecence...it became just as easy to decipher as when you are texting though...When i would spell the word out in my head, like cause you have to keep track, if i would make a mistake it would hit the 0 key or type out no.

- Did you ask "it" questions and it would spell out answers or did it spell out messages without being asked anything?

Both...mostly question answering at first. But if i were to open my phone right now it would prob tell me to quit typing to you...which i just tryed and i figured something out...ill ask a question when im done and then explain further

- Did you ask a lot of yes/no questions or did you ask for detailed/complex answers?

Both...it was easier to keep it simple at first

- Have you always been able to see/hear/feel/sense spirit presence or did this only start after your brother passed away?

I had a few run-ins with extremely strong feelings before my brother passed away. Dont know if you will believe me or not but these are the two that stick out in my mind the clearest.
My freshman year in college, during the end of the first semester and right before my first finals week: this was more of a thought than a huge feeling but it goes like this. I have a huge family and sometimes its hard to get around to seeing everyone. It had been a while since i seen my stepmother because her and my dad were separated so it had been about 6 months or so. Around the time i explained im like damn I need to ask my dad how shes doing, its been a while and i hope shes ok. I call my house two days later trying to organize a ride home after school was finished. My stepdad answered, like i said big family, and was like i have some bad news. Your step mom had an anerism, which caused a heart attack which caused a stroke and ended up laying on her floor for a day before anyone found her. Shes in the hospital in critical condition. She ended up pulling through and is doing OK now but strokes can be extremely difficult if not impossible to recover from. Fully anyhow...

The second...this is the one that hurts me the most. Is the day my brother passed away. I was home on break and we had planned to do some painting on homes and such because i was in need of money to survive. I woke up in the morning looking to wake him up but he was up before me, which never happened. I ended up finding him beside my mothers bed laying there and i dont know it just felt like something was wrong. Spent the next little while getting ready for work. Then i went to look for him again and this time he was up in our room. I called from the bottom of the stairs and said yo butt munch you ready to go. He said give him a minute so i went to our living room and sat there. I actually said outloud to my self....what if those are the last words that i say to my brother. they were.

But this specific case didnt happen until after my brother passed away. And it was a year and a half later. Which is how most get classified scytso..a therapist or psychiatrist will assume the loss caused a break with reality at some point. But i think there are many cases of this being a lost loved one...OR a stronger spiritual connection to the world. My hope iis that its not my brother because that would mean he is still stuck in this unforgiving world which he decided to leave. Religon says that God punishes those who commit suicide...But religion is flawed by the hand of man. I think every action is forgivable as long as it is asked for and/or worked for. I hope its not my brother because it has lied and gotten me in trouble like i said...just worrying about people. and then calling them at 3am...but this was in the begining.

I look at things as a lesson and maybe it is my bro. because its lies have pointed out my weaknesses of gulibility and trust...It has gotten me strongly motivated to chase my dreams sometimes by telling me that ive got talent...or telling me im not shit...which plays to my fighting personality. I am not perfect and I am working on my flaws one at a time and one step at a time...when i fall back on a flaw it tells me not to or says do it and remember that each time it holds you back from what you are chasing.

Maybe this is the work he is required to do to see what heaven has in store for him. My life wouldnt be the same without the death of my brother because i found myself out of the darkest feelings a person could feel. But it also wouldnt be the same without this thing that pointed out my flaws through my own actions.

The question i was looking to ask. What are your thoughts on possession....when i say the word it sounds more harsh than the situation i deal with. But like i said earlier, upon concentration i can push this spirit away...it more feels like i push it out of the back of my body. And when i opened my phone like i said earlier and put my thunb over the key pad it began to move...until i pushed it away from me. Then i was in complete control of my limp thumb...ie it wasnt moving. Now when i push this away...i can feel it attempt or even get back in...in which case afterwards its like not there. Its like the complex feeling of putting on socks...or smelling something faintly....you recognize it at first but then your body adjusts to it. But when i push it away i feel...i dont know how to describe this correctly...a weight...a pressure release.

The weirdest thing was as that while i was typing this...That weight i was talking about left....and when i try to say something i dont get a response...now this has happened a few times only with a response of a few mins later it being like sike...you dont get rid o me that easily. But maybe i came to the total realization that i was supposed to come to.

BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Well so nothin has changed. Like i said the fu@kin thing lies any chance it can get.

I guess i just have to live with this thing. Ignore it to the best of my ability and keep figuring out ways of protecting myself. Whether its strict concentration or just total ignorance until it gives up and realizes im not going to acknowledge its existance.

That and throwin up a prayer when i can just for some back up. I just would really rather not have to deal with it...I mean really how many people have these fukin things follow them around. Attempting to live their life because they fuked up their own...or something like that?

Oh yea and all that other crap never really worked...like sage and things like that. I had someone come and do that a while back at my place, and what ever it is i have thought it was funny to watch.
Sorry this is just frustrating like you cant believe

em · Posted: Aug Tue 28, 2007 1:14 am Post subject:

BIGL,

i am curious as to why you think that this "ghost" is so attached to you??

Also how do you know it's lying?? (sorry i just curious)
Could you give an example on how you caught it out on a lie??

Mel · Posted: Aug Tue 28, 2007 1:26 am Post subject:

Sage doesn't get rid of spirits it gets rid of negitive energy. Even then if there is alot of negitive energy it will only reduce it. You will have to keep doing it over and over to get rid of the negitive energy.

But if the spirit you are talking about isn't negitive it will do nothing for you.

What you may be experiencing is a spirit that is having fun with you. Spirits do lie, they do like to mess with people. They are no different then having some stranger in your home that likes to lie and mess with you.

You can try set down some rules, like you would someone that is staying with you.

Be firm when doing it, but don't use anger.

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Aug Tue 28, 2007 1:36 am Post subject:

Don't listen to Mel, BigL! That was only her first post, so she couldn't possibly know what she's talking about! >8>)=

Just kidding, M!.... lol Laughing

BigL, i'm trying to absorb everything you've said then i'll reply again....

- Aedryan
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Mel · Posted: Aug Tue 28, 2007 1:38 am Post subject:

lol thanks for the wonderful Welcome! I feel the love lol

dstnyisurs · Posted: Aug Tue 28, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

I find it quite hard to believe the entity was texting you. And even if it was, than you were not very exact when you were telling about it. If you expected serious results, even though you did get them, you might have better made sure of getting results by sayingxactly what the entity was saying, whether is was using text-speak or such.

I believe you, but it is quite hard to believe an entity was texting you.

P.S. And you know, if I was in your shoes I would be scared silly that something was approaching me in bed, if you get my drift.

oldcloud · Guest

Hau,
Sage will not get rid of any energys , Negative or other. Sage is a cleansing tool used by my people,, You use sage to cleanse your self ., Not energys,,, It takes you,, to do that. (I didnt post on bigL because)

When you want to learn more about sage, give me a jiggle,,,,,,,,,, Native Oldcloud

BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

BigL · Curious About Ghosts Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

butterfly39 · Posted: Aug Thu 30, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject:

I'm not touching this one. I'm Confused

. Say does anyone have a patton on phone ouijas?