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Aedryan Methyus
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Take a look at what these clowns claim about EVP's!
http://www.skepticwiki.org/wiki/index.php/Electronic_Voice_Phenomenon
Freaking clueless skeptics.... They truely are in denial!
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They make some valid points, regardless of how irritating it may sound.
I conduct ASSP/EVP and believe something outside of known physics is occuring. But to be fair:
YES, it does appear many people do mistake sludge for genuine anomalous audio pickups, due to high expectations or overly-imaginative minds.
And yes, radio-wave interference does exist and statistically, some of us have recorded this. And some of these recordings have probably been taken for genuine ASSP.
And they nailed perhaps the biggest problem of all: The widespread, unfounded assumption that the voices and sounds we pick up are certainly ghosts. There is absolutely no evidence proving whether the voices come from another species in a different dimension, ghosts or our own thought patterns, etc.
I have no problem with those who believe these voices are certainly from beyond the grave. But to publically proclaim this belief as if its a certainty, is fraudulant.
There is no objective proof these voices eminate from ghosts at this point.
What blows a hole in the popular skeptics' theories on ASSP, is this:
These recorded voices and anomalous sounds often include pointed answers to pointed questions; sounds that show evidence of sentience; intelligent responses that fit the meaning of the question asked.
This defies chance. If the anomalous sounds are interpreted similarly for many people, independent of each other, and w/out being prompted for possible answer, it further validates the argument against em wave interference as causing these sounds. |
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Hi OMS,
First of all, welcome to the forum! Glad to have ya aboard!
I'm sure radio wave interference does exist and I don't see any reason why it couldn't be recorded, though I never have. I think it would be a fairly simple thing to differentiate from electronic voice phenomenon too. I mean, how many people are sitting out there on their CB's saying sinister things like, "Get ooooouuut!", "Heeeeelllp Meeee", "I'm Gonna Kill You Alllll!", etc. And like you said, we have captured our fair share of direct communication responses to questions asked and things said. We have also proven repeatedly that they are somehow able to manipulate/morph our own voices, in that an investigator will say one thing, but something totally different is heard in our audio playback. See my "Universal EVP Classification System" for many of the different catagories of electronic voice phenomenon we have encountered.
As anyone that knows me will tell you, I have became progressively more skeptic about ghosts/ghost study over the years through experience. Pretty much every photographic anamoly in existence has been scientifically debunked 100 times over. Literally to the point that taking photos during our investigations seems ridiculously pointless. EVP's however, are about the only remaining anamolies that defy ALL skeptical explanations thus far, so long as strict protocols are followed.
The term "ASSP" is irrelevant, where EVP's are concerned, because paranormal investigators with any sense whatsoever (yes, I know they are few) are not going give any consideration to scuffling/rustling/shuffling noises and such. We have had bullheaded members in our group (not mentioning any names) who try and do this. They are the same people that have really bad cases of "Chronic-Photo-Morph-itis" and "Chronic-Pixel-a-tosis" (LOL). They always try to make something paranormal out of nothing. Natural noises are usually extremely simple to differentiate from EVP's.
I agree that EVP's are not necessarily undisputable evidence of an after life, but these disembodied voices certainly DO exist beyond a doubt and I have yet to hear a skeptical theory that holds up. Especially not their ASSP, radio wave or residual theories....
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Hey there Aedryan, thanks for welcoming me to the site! I agree with most of what you have said and think it sounds quite sensible.
I agree that the audio anomolies we collect are probably hardest to disprove. Lol I know what you mean about "orbs" and the like being easily explained away. I never bothered much with film for the sole sake of picking up untoward visuals, for this reason.
Also, I've thought the same as you: it would be hard to mistake a conversational remark for someone speaking over a radio somewhere. But the possibility is legitimate, since beginners often aren't sure what to "look for" when first listening for ASSPs.
But overall I agree that in general these pickups have a sound and emotional expression that sets them apart from some dude's CB conversation with some other trucker.
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It's interesting you mention the mimickery thing. That’s exactly what I've experienced too. Was just thinking of posting recordings where my voice is being mimicked. I asked a question and got an answer mimicking my own voice, but a little deeper and slightly mechanical. It sounds like jibberish played forward. Played backward, it seems clear to me what’s being said. Very strange.
As for ASSP, I agree there tends to be more "imaginative interpretation" of otherwise mundane sounds. So I can see the importance of not getting sidetracked by generic noises occuring frequently in the environment. But I have found what seem to me like legitimate sounds. Examples:
I have a sample taken from a mausoleum (in case ghosts are behind it). The place was very quiet except for a small and distant water fountain. I ask into the air, "If anyone has anything to say ... please, by all means." And then there's the sound of a woman's voice saying "Ok" (friendly). Right afterward is the distinct sound of 2 pairs of heartbeats.
I have another recording where I was drawing a gremlin on paper and as I described what the thing was like to a friend, there's the distinct sound of some winged creature landing on the table, flapping wings and making a strange hacking noise.
In another part of the same rec. I talk about how unfriendly the gremlin looks on paper, and what follows is a loud spitting-hissing sound.
These noises are highly contextual, and therefore I consider them completely relevant and deserving of documenting and seriously studying.
If someone is investigating a site at Gettysburg and it's 4AM at a quiet and isolated area … if the sounds of a cannon going off, or rifles firing, or horses naying are picked up, I would consider that important to keep and study.
So for me, ASSP is the all-inclusive alternative to studying the limited EVP approach to aural anomalies. |
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I don't know...It's real hard for me to give any credibility to ambient room noise. These noises are difficult if not impossible to differentiate between natural noises or noises caused by normal movement in the room. To me there is still nothing as compelling as a voice seemingly answering a preformatted list of questions.
I don't even do the things that a lot of these so called, EVP specialists do. Where they have to enhance the sounds to produce a discernable voice. The result tends to make the voice sound metallic and over amplified. I recognize only clear voices that cannot be explained as naturally occurring or generated by people in the immediate area.
OMS TX, can you explain to me how these sound recordings or ASSP's are relevant in your research? How are they used in your documentation and what are you trying to show that has not already been thought of by past researchers? In other words, what can these "extra" sounds tell us about the nature of paranormal activity?
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I think in general you are correct: people do seem to misrepresent mundane sounds frequently. And the picking up of distinct nonverbals, like that of rapid gunfire, for ex, seems to occur less often.
But the relative infrequency of these sounds doesn't make them un worthy of study. Such noises, especially when sufficiently loud/clear, will only be as hard to discern from the environment as a verbal sounds would be in many cases. "Normal movement" in a room, is also relative.
| Quote: | | To me there is still nothing as compelling as a voice seemingly answering a preformatted list of questions. |
And what is "more compelling" (voice vs. sound) is highly relative. I would be more intrigued by five seconds of flying bullets and missles in some contexts, than I would with a voice whispering "I died here" following a “yes”.
And generally I’ve found the voices don’t tend to clearly answer a “list” of q’s, as often as they do just answer one or maybe two at one sitting.
| Quote: | | I don't even do the things that a lot of these so called, EVP specialists do. Where they have to enhance the sounds to produce a discernable voice. The result tends to make the voice sound metallic and over amplified. I recognize only clear voices that cannot be explained as naturally occurring or generated by people in the immediate area. |
Glad you have your MO in order. I agree. And this same principle should be applied to ASSP. I’m also aversed to the use of White Noise. I believe in the use of realtive and absolute silence while taping.
| Quote: | | OMS TX, can you explain to me how these sound recordings or ASSP's are relevant in your research? How are they used in your documentation and what are you trying to show that has not already been thought of by past researchers? In other words, what can these "extra" sounds tell us about the nature of paranormal activity? |
ASSP should be more widely studied in general. Simply put, the body of alleged "evidence" for ASSP is less than that of EVP, likely due to the relative paucity of authentically-captured non-verbal anomalies.
It would help if more of those who study EVP “keep their ears open” to possible compelling ASSP. Many will likely amount to nothing, but there will likely be enough compelling captures to contribute to the body of such “evidence” for further study. Also, the number of legitimate pro researchers needs to increase for a better chance at improving the integrity of testing methodology.
I believe any breakthrough in research that occurs won't happen because someone suggested that someone can't think of anything new to study about ASSP that hasn't been studied before. One problem is that the studies on ASSP and EVP so far have been problematic because there isn't strict scientific methodology being implored. Often it’s something as basic as faulty conclusions drawn from gathered statistics.
Or something more aggregious like a failure to properly define study parameters.
EVP researchers repeatedly run up against these walls in research.
I think one way some of us can improve the possibility of unlocking the secrets/ mystery of ASSP/EVP is to take science classes, statistics classes ... and learn basic research skills. Then become genuine researchers who conform to strict scientific testing methods.
There are plenty of methods to implore in studying ASSP. These sounds will be subjected to scrutiny to rule out mundane causes and only the most compelling would be collected by researchers.
The potential rewards of the legitimate collecting and studying of ASSP, are likely the same as so-called EVP.
Strong, clear, contextual sounds and verbalizations, under certain test conditions, help show the likely existence of a law (or laws) of nature, yet unknown or fully explored.
An important test condition (to consider) in both cases is that the nature of the sound or vocaliz. fit the context of the questions being asked, or strongly correlate w events being discussed ... a correlation that greatly defies chance of random noise.
So the "extra" sounds, as you say, have as much importance as vocals. And let's not forget that "extra" sounds quite frequently are labeled as EVP. |
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| Quote: | | I would be more intrigued by five seconds of flying bullets and missles in some contexts, than I would with a voice whispering "I died here" following a “yes”. |
Point taken but in this context you are listening "back in time" to residual sounds instead of dealing with an actual intelligent entity.
| Quote: | | I’m also aversed to the use of White Noise. I believe in the use of realtive and absolute silence while taping. |
Although whitenoise has been shown in some instances, the cons definately outweigh the pros where it is conceerned. No one should use whitenoise it's distortion prevents discernable voices or "muddles" the sounds.
Some of the mechanics involved with the EVP modulation in our atmosphere have been shown to be enhanced, if not produced by converging ultrasonic carrier signals. Through some of my experiments I have received very good results by using ultrasonic emitters between a 40kHz and 65kHz spread for the primary (base) frequency. The voices that are enhanced fall well within the human voice and speech range.
I recommend using the old B/W TV (volume and picture turned down) set stored in the closet or buying a cheap ultrasonic pest deterrant for those who do not wish to spend a lot of money. They produce adequate ultrasonic frequencies for experimental purposes!
I'm not saying that ASSP is not research worthy but I don't see myself wasting time on ambient noise instead of the 3 hours of audio I just got.
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I’ll break this up into a couple posts to be merciful to your eyes …
| OMS Transmitting wrote: | | I would be more intrigued by five seconds of flying bullets and missles in some contexts, than I would with a voice whispering "I died here" following a “yes”. |
You: | Quote: | | Point taken but in this context you are listening "back in time" to residual sounds instead of dealing with an actual intelligent entity. |
It’s a good point you make about vocals strongly suggesting intelligence. Even if it turns out the “intelligent entity” behind the voice turns out to be just the thought forms of the speaker, as some surmise.
Certain sounds can be theoretically caused by a sentient being/s. For example, someone is drawing a picture of a gremlin on paper in a quiet room. The recorder is on and the speaker comments on the drawing. Upon playback, the loud sound of wings flapping as the artists mentions the wings being drawn; there’s the sound of a dynamite explosion as the artist comments on how s/he thinks she pictures the gremlin “blowing something up”. And so forth. This type of activity has been recorded.
The argument for sentience here, would be that is seems something or someone is orchestrating these sounds as a response to match the speaker’s words: As if something or someone has said Oh, so that’s what you see? Well here are some sound effects for you.
… Or maybe these are thought forms of the speaker/drawer. Even so it’s suggestive of intelligence. And very much worth studying, IMO.
Also, even if recorded battlefield sounds may seem suggestive of a recording of past events, it is no less important to paranormal studies than a set of captured voices. |
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Phew. Part 2 ...
You: | Quote: | | Some of the mechanics involved with the EVP modulation in our atmosphere have been shown to be enhanced, if not produced by converging ultrasonic carrier signals. Through some of my experiments I have received very good results by using ultrasonic emitters between a 40kHz and 65kHz spread for the primary (base) frequency. The voices that are enhanced fall well within the human voice and speech range. |
This sounds interesting. Have you tried relative or absolute silence too? Have you come to any conclusions in comparing any two (or more) methods?
| Quote: | | I recommend using the old B/W TV (volume and picture turned down) set stored in the closet or buying a cheap ultrasonic pest deterrant for those who do not wish to spend a lot of money. They produce adequate ultrasonic frequencies for experimental purposes! |
I like the idea of turning the sound down. Usually when people use white noise, it seems the volume is jacked up and you have to turn up your imagination to keep up with what’s “being said”.
| Quote: | | I'm not saying that ASSP is not research worthy but I don't see myself wasting time on ambient noise instead of the 3 hours of audio I just got. |
Thing is, ASSP, which stands for Anomalous Speech & Sound Production, includes EVP (voice). The only thing ASSP asks of the listener, is to note any STARK, strongly correlating sounds, while listening for voices. I don't think it should be a requirement, but I'm saying I don't think every non-verbal sound should be excluded for consideration in research, or discounted as part of the entire body of growing "evidence" in aural anamolies.
Like you, I don’t like to waste a lot of time … so whether it’s voices or sounds, I tend to put my attention on the obvious; the clear. Not on questionable sounds that could easily have come from multiple sources. |
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| Quote: | | The argument for sentience here, would be that is seems something or someone is orchestrating these sounds as a response to match the speaker’s words: As if something or someone has said Oh, so that’s what you see? Well here are some sound effects for you. |
It's interesting you mention that...one of the messages received tells us that ethereal entities (is that better) use a 27000 character language to communicate (like pictures). One of the codewords used during a lot of this communication between the mid 80's and 90's was silimarillion because it did not have meaning to the human mind, hence we could not create an image and compromise the session to less "nice" entities. So, if we took that as truth then entities would have a greater chance of understanding us if you visualize the subject of your questioning session as you ask them. Hey, couldn't hurt...give it a try!
| Quote: | | Have you tried relative or absolute silence too? Have you come to any conclusions in comparing any two (or more) methods? |
Yes, and the clarity of the latter is much greater. I don't do indoor EVP recordings without it anymore. Outdoor...well the problem is obvious!
| Quote: | | I like the idea of turning the sound down. |
As you know and others should realize you don't have to hear the sound for it to be beneficial to your recording as long as the waves are constructive (in phase).
| Quote: | | Like you, I don’t like to waste a lot of time … so whether it’s voices or sounds, I tend to put my attention on the obvious; the clear. Not on questionable sounds that could easily have come from multiple sources. |
This is definately something we can agree on!
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| Quote: | | It's interesting you mention that...one of the messages received tells us that ethereal entities (is that better) use a 27000 character language to communicate (like pictures). One of the codewords used during a lot of this communication between the mid 80's and 90's was silimarillion because it did not have meaning to the human mind, hence we could not create an image and compromise the session to less "nice" entities. So, if we took that as truth then entities would have a greater chance of understanding us if you visualize the subject of your questioning session as you ask them. Hey, couldn't hurt...give it a try! |
This sounds quite interesting. Questions: Who is the “us” receiving messages (first sentence)? I’ll tell ya, if these voices come from independent entities (aren’t merely a reflection of our own thought-forms), the beings certainly seem to respond to visuals w auditory responses.
I like your idea to visualize while asking. I think I’ll try that out thanks.
| Quote: | | Yes, and the clarity of the latter is much greater. I don't do indoor EVP recordings without it anymore. Outdoor...well the problem is obvious! |
How do you attain absolute silence (if that’s what you’re saying you prefer)? Lol the whole outdoor thing is really tricky. I don’t even bother. I got talked into recording at 2 graveyards when I first began and it was laughable. You’re up against about 25 ambient sounds. The wind alone promised that even a long toe-curling scream would be totally drowned out haha.
| Quote: | | As you know and others should realize you don't have to hear the sound for it to be beneficial to your recording as long as the waves are constructive (in phase). |
No, actually you just educated me. I’m fairly new to recording. I was pretty closed to the idea of ASSP/EVP being genuine until maybe 1+ ½ years ago. The hardcore skeptics, many of whom I suspect haven’t really tried this out for themselves, do a fair job of offering up logical-sounding reasons for it being fake … reasons that generally don’t hold up well once you try it for yourself and examine the nature of the anomalies, up close. So it took me a minute before I bypassed the cynics to find out for myself.
Have you witnessed what you believe to be paranormal activity, outside of EVP (like seeing something)? I’m not asking to try and poke and pull it down as evidence. You sound very methodical and reasonable - its pretty refreshing- so I value hearing your opinion. |
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| Quote: | | Who is the “us” receiving messages (first sentence)? |
Thats the question isn't it!? Well, I have recently switched from EVP study to ITC experimentation (little less than a year ago). All of my research and equipment is now geared toward that pursuit. The voices we get (the we being associates of mine all over the world) are genuine and independent as far as I can tell. Mind you, these are not the half a second recordings you get during EVP. These recordings can go for 10 to 15 minutes or longer and are a two way exchange of information (kind of like a telephone call). Hard to believe right!? Check out my friend Mark Macy's site, http://www.worlditc.org , I'm not asking you to blindly believe what I or the site has to say. I say try it for yourself.
| Quote: | | How do you attain absolute silence (if that’s what you’re saying you prefer)? |
I don't! I just don't add to the sounds during recording. No whitenoise, no nervous shuffling, talking is kept at normal tones while in the recording area so the voices can be identified (in other words no whispering), only the interviewer/interregator/questioner is allowed to speak at any one time. Hand signals are used to interject a comment or question, this is so we don't talk over each other and cause accidental morphing of voices. These are just a few of the "rules" we strictly enforce when I go on investigations. Thats what I meant a few posts ago by proper protocal. Of course when I go with groups as a joint venture, I make them aware of my requirements.
I have heard so many groups recordings where they are bullshitting and an entity is tryng to speak over them or the investigators voices run together and form words. I think to myself, "why do you even bother posting this garbage"?
| Quote: | | Have you witnessed what you believe to be paranormal activity, outside of EVP (like seeing something)? |
Of course! I have seen apparitions, been touched (shoved), been scratched (3 fingernail marks on my shoulder), heard with my own ears disembodied voices (caught on tape), and smelled the smell of rotting flesh and excrement with no apparent cause. One thing I have never seen in real life is levitation or teleportation. I have never seen anything move!
One of the traps a lot of people fall into when it comes to the paranormal is adopting the philosophy, "I have never seen it, so it must be impossible". I tell people like that to assume that it really happened and then try to disprove it if you can. Don't automatically assume it is untrue without testing the story. That is probably the best advice I can offer to anyone who wants to pursue paranormal research.
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Sounds like your technical background would make it easier for you to switch over to ITC, is that so? Since I’m still just a baby to the study of paranormal electronica (and not so great w electronics Lol), it sounds a little intimidating. But I’m about to go to the worlditc site and check it out.
Funny, about 2 years ago I might have said 10-15 min. recordings were to hard to believe, but since picking up my first sounds, my mind is open to many possibilities.
My blindspot – where I tend to be prejudice from the beginning – is when the person making the claim sounds sloppy about their procedure or presumptive about the nature of what they’re studying. It could turn out they have something real, but it’s an internal battle for me take them for real and respect their message.
Anyway that doesn’t sound like you. I’m quite interested in what you’ve been saying here.
I’m up to observing/investigating things (like what you’re doing) that are compelling, keeping as open mind as possible offset by a healthy balance of inquiry and skepticism. I’ve had too many (seemingly) impossible-to-explain incidents of my own to justify nailing someone else before actually hearing them out. Some of mine have included seeming telekinesis and other events. But no scratches, shoves or rotten smells. That's quite something.
| Quote: | | I don't[attain absolute silence]! I just don't add to the sounds during recording. No whitenoise, no nervous shuffling, talking is kept at normal tones while in the recording area so the voices can be identified (in other words no whispering), only the interviewer/interregator/questioner is allowed to speak at any one time. Hand signals are used to interject a comment or question, this is so we don't talk over each other and cause accidental morphing of voices. These are just a few of the "rules" we strictly enforce when I go on investigations. Thats what I meant a few posts ago by proper protocal. Of course when I go with groups as a joint venture, I make them aware of my requirements. |
Your methodology sounds pretty good. I should have explained what my little self-baked terms mean. When I say “relative silence”, I’m pretty much referring to what you describe as your method of recording. I use the term “absolute silence” to describe ASSP recording in the context of a strict, sound-proofed room - like a recording room inside a music studio - and/or a Faraday cage to block out EM wave interference.
I use relative silence too. But I have some recordings which were recorded in even less strict conditions, because there is some irritating cross-talk involved (as you mentioned happens).
| Quote: | | One of the traps a lot of people fall into when it comes to the paranormal is adopting the philosophy, "I have never seen it, so it must be impossible". |
This is one I’ve been guilty of. How long have you been an investigator? Do you think it's possible the fact you’ve been exposed to more unexplained episodes than the average person, has helped you be more open-minded about what may be possible??
It seems to me that many formerly religious-turned-skeptical-of everything-people (like me), who are new to EVP or ASSP whatever, could fall into this trap pretty easily. My goal is to remain an open-minded skeptic. But at times I read about someone’s wild experience and have a knee-jerk reaction of “that’s got to be a lie”, even before giving it a fair shot … I've momentarily forgetting just how cracked up I sound to the average person when talking about my study of anomalous voices! Heh. That'll teach me. |
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| Quote: | | Sounds like your technical background would make it easier for you to switch over to ITC, is that so? |
I think my familiarity with the equipment and having witnessed many anomalous communications while in the military has made it easier. I know almost anything is possible under the right conditions. Knowing this I gave it a shot and the first 5 minutes of recording captured something.
Don't feel intimidated about electronics, if you have an old stereo that a relative gave you or an old computer, tear it apart and find out what makes it work. The only real way of destroying a computer for good is allowing the blue smoke out. Once it is out there is not going back it's dead and gone to the happy hunting grounds.
I am scavenging the parts myself to build a radio. I shopped around for a type of radio with the frequency range suitable for this type of communication. Guess what, you can't find one, so I am building one. I am getting parts from old TV's (tuners), relays, hell I would love to find an old tube radio (you know the ones you have to let warm up). Considering the parts are relatively free (except for the PCB and breadboard needed for the circuits) it should cost me less than 50 bucks.
| Quote: | | How long have you been an investigator? Do you think it's possible the fact you’ve been exposed to more unexplained episodes than the average person, has helped you be more open-minded about what may be possible? |
I have been actively investigating for over 10 years and did the whole "ghost hunting" thing in my younger years. So, total about 22-23 years! It all started with poltergeist activity at the ripe old age of 11 years old.
Do I think exposure made me more aware of the possibilities? Possibilities no, (knowing what signs to look for, yes) a strong science background made me aware of the possibilities. I'm sure you have heard the phrase, "truth is stranger than fiction". Well when you get away from classical, newtonian physics (which is about dead at this point thanks to quantum physics)....well I take that back, newtonian physics are great when you bounce 2 balls together (macro) and witness a predictable reaction but when you bounce to particles together (micro) you get a different reaction or don't get the same reaction everytime. Another example, sonoluminesence....put a bubble of air in water and run it through a 20kHz signal...see what happens then! Read about John Hutchinson's accidental discovery of the Hutchinson Effect, where objects levitate, transform, teleport, and so on (hundreds have witnessed the phenomenon from university scientists to governments and the military). Truth be told I haven't heard of an anomaly that wasn't technically possible under the right conditions.
Religion and beliefs have no place in research and investigation of the technical aspects. Thoughts and emotion should play a role in the personal side of it though. When you are communicating with them treat them with love and respect. What do I mean by that? Love is the absence of fear!
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Death does not exist!
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