Sign The Petition Of Solidarity

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Wed 13, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: Sign The Petition Of Solidarity

On November 19, 2004, the "Justice for 9/11" Steering Committee submitted a Citizens' Complaint and Petition to the offices of the Attorney General of New York State, Eliot Spitzer, citing probable cause for an independent grand jury investigation to examine unsolved crimes committed in connection with the events of September 11, 2001.

Whether there is truth - either in whole or in part, regarding the conspiracy theories, which revolve around all of the peculiarities and anamolies, surrounding the events, which took place on 9/11, I feel that we as Americans deserve an unbiased, full scale investigation once and for all. Do the right thing and sign this petition. If for nothing else, for the sake of possibly bringing some closure to the family members of 9/11 victims.

Click Here To Add Your Name To The Petition Of Solidarity Here

- Aedryan
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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Wed 13, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:

Overview Of Complaint
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Gee thanks for reposting the same link Laughing

Thought it might have been obvious I was looking for a quick summation from someone who had already sifting through the tedium at that site. Oh well.

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Wed 13, 2006 3:52 am Post subject:

That's not the same link at all. The last link takes you directly to the overview of the complaint, which has links to every part of the complaint, as well as anything else that is relivant to the case. I thought you asked what specifically the petition was referring to and that page outlines the entire complaint....

Aren't you familiar with all of the 9/11 conspiracy theories?

- Aedryan
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fratka · Posted: Dec Wed 13, 2006 8:28 am Post subject:

I have two reason for not signing this petition:

1. I don't make it a habit of signing web based petitions. They can use it for anything other than what it was meant for....

2. I don't share the beliefs of both a) and b) of the summary. All evidence presented by conspiracy theorists and even more credible people is all circumstantial. There is absolutely no evidence, which directly links any US official to any crimes. If I was a citizen of NY state I would have bigger questions regarding my above statement in relation to spending a huge amount of my tax dollars on an investigation for an indictment that can't win in court. The prosecutors would not even look at this case without direct links.

The whole idea of this investigation is to one day prosecute some guilty party for crimes against humanity. In order for the state attorney general to take this to court he/she would have to be damn sure they can win. Do you think they can win?
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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Wed 13, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject:

Man, i've been going round and round with some guy on a guitar forum I hang out at, about the "circumstantial" aspect of the evidence presented by conspiracy theorists. The evidence may be circumstantial, BUT there is A HELLUVA LOT of it. As they state throughout their complaint, there is more than enough evidence to show probable cause. And there is more than enough evidence, which clearly shows things are not as we were led to believe in the "official explanations". I mean, come on, we watched the twin towers implode into their own footprints. 7 hours later, building 7 did the same exact thing, despite the fact that it was over 350 feet away from the nearest tower and was untouched by an airplane. Nevermind the fact that Silverstein took out those whopping insurance policies (specifically insuring them for acts of terror) only two weeks before 9/11 or the $7 + billion he profited or how he publicly stated right on video that he knew the buildings were going to be "pulled".

And the Pentagon.... 5 years later and our government still cannot produce a single frame of video showing anything that even remotely resembles a 757 jumbo jet flying into the Pentagon?

This list of "circumstantial" evidence goes on and on, but there has got to be a way to get to the truth behind it all. They spent far more money on frying Bill Clinton for simply getting a damn blow job in the whitehouse for Christ sakes!

- Aedryan
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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Sun 17, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject:

Indeed I have almost read the whole thing and it's already completely summarized at the link I gave you. I don't see any need to.... lol summarize it again here.
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fratka · Posted: Dec Mon 18, 2006 9:54 am Post subject:

I stand with my original statement and add this... No one will ever be prosecuted for this except for someone of middle-eastern decent. If you go after people in our government, all it will do is once again embarrass us in the eyes of the world. If you think anyone in particular is responsible on the US side or in DC then get them voted out of office without a media "he said she said" circus.

Airing our dirty laundry to the world is not the answer. Take them out quietly through election and discredidation(sp). Very Happy

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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Mon 18, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject:

So, you're saying that if our government did indeed have involvement, simply voting the responsible individual(s) out of office would be plenty punishment enough for the mass murder of over 3,000 innocent Americans, waging a war and setting forth policies, which take away American's freedoms and liberties under false pretenses, huh? Laughing

- Aedryan
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fratka · Posted: Dec Mon 18, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Thats not what I said, senator...ahem, I mean Aedryan! Shocked

Are there a lot of things that look fishy? Sure! Can we point at any one person and blame them? No! Is there a single shred of evidence to prove that any American's were directly involved? No!

So what you are saying is you would convict a man/men on shaky, circumstantial evidence, which would, at the very least send them to prison for the rest of there lives or hung for high-treason?! You would execute a man or group of men because it looks fishy instead of knowing in concrete, upon the evidence or their own admission? That would make you as bad as any "scared of losing power" dictator who fears the people so he kills to control them.

If I kill a man, which is what state sponsored execution is (all of us are responsible), I wanna be damn sure he did the crime.

You mention the 3000 murders of innocent people...blah, blah, blah.... That is nothing but an emotion evoking statement. People die! Instead of justice you are looking for revenge.

....which I have no problem with either, as long as it makes you feel better! Laughing

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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Dec Mon 18, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject:

The answer to all of your questions is no. I wouldn't sentence someone to death without physical evidence of guilt. However, isn't that why such things as investigations and the judicial system exist? This petition is not asking anyone to hang anybody. It simply shows that there is probable cause on MANY counts, which would justify an in depth, UNBIASED investigation of the 9/11 tragedies. You are twisting around the entire point of this petition, Frank....

Again, many more billions (I can't remember the exact number at the moment) were spent investigating Bill Clinton for getting a damn blow job than was spent investigating these horrible atrocities. Nuff said!

- Aedryan
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fratka · Posted: Dec Tue 19, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: