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Aedryan Methyus Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Aug Thu 24, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Seeing/Hearing/Sensing Dead People? - Get Help Here! |
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Seeing/Hearing/Sensing Dead People And You Are Seeking Help? Here's A Good Place To Start!
As anyone who knows me will tell you, the SHGHRS will not just tell you what you want to hear, where the paranormal is concerned. To do so would accomplish nothing and be of no help to anyone. We strive to maintain a sensible, realistic outlook on the "unexplainable. Before we attibute something to the paranormal we always search for the most sensible explanation possible and we call things the way we see them. Unfortunately, that means we have no choice, but to tell people things they may not want to hear sometimes.
We receive an enormous amount of emails and questions from people who have had strange experiences and they are in seek of definitive answers and unfortunately, there just isn't such a thing in this field! As i've stated many times, out of all the people seeking help, the ones we hear from the most are those who are seeing/hearing/sensing dead people. I would almost call it an epidemic! People who have these types of experiences are commonly referred to as "sensitives", meaning that they think they are able to see/hear/feel/sense spirits and even communicate with them. They say they have what is referred to as "The Third Eye" or "The Sixth Sense".
The fact is, we have yet to ever see any documented evidence, which supports any of their claims whatsoever. The SHGHRS has even had a couple different people, who claim to be sensitive, present during a couple of our investigations and all night long they told us, "take a picture here and you'll get this", "take a picture there and you'll get that", etc and nothing anomalous is ever captured during these instances.
So, Why Do Sensitives See Dead People?
Again, there are no definitive answers, but I have derived at three possible theories. As you may or may not know, doctors pretty much just chalk these symptoms up as schizophrenia. Well, I can personally attest that I have without a doubt witnessed a pattern in pretty much every person I have ever spoke with who says that they see/hear/feel dead people. Nearly every one of them admit to having been diagnosed with SOME sort of mental illness. They always say they have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, manic depression or all of the above. I feel that the very few (maybe only 2 people out of dozens) who said they do not have any sort of mental ailment have either just not been diagnosed yet or they were lying.
Schizotypal Personality Disorder
"Schizotypal Personality Disorder" is another condition, in addition to schizophrenia, which also fits the description of a sensitive person exactly. Here is what we know about this condition:
Diagnostic Criteria:
A. A pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1) Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference)
2) Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)
3) Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
4) Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped)
5) Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
6) Inappropriate or constricted affect
7) Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric or peculiar.
8. Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
9) Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self
B. Does not occur exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia, a Mood Disorder With Psychotic Features, another Psychotic Disorder, or a Pervasive Developmental Disorder.
Note: If criteria are met prior to the onset of Schizophrenia, add "Premorbid," e.g., "Schizotypal Personality Disorder (Premorbid)."
Differential Diagnosis:
Delusional Disorder; Schizophrenia; Mood Disorder With Psychotic Features; Autistic Disorder; Asperger's Disorder; Expressive and Mixed Receptive-Expressive Language Disorders; Communication Disorders; Personality Change Due to a General Medical Condition; symptoms that may develop in association with chronic substance use; Paranoid Personality Disorder; Schizoid Personality Disorder; Avoidant Personality Disorder; Narcissistic Personality Disorder; Borderline Personality Disorder; Schizotypal features during adolescence.
Here are a few of the typical symptoms of schizophrenia: Delusions, hallucinations, disorganized thinking, psychosis and paranoia. Much more can be learned about schizophrenia online with a few simple searches.
As I have already said, I have seen a pattern with sensitives first hand and I have derived at three possible theories. Either way, I am convinced that the seeing, hearing and feeling of dead people is indeed directly attributed to a mental illness. My theories are as follows:
Theory 1
Could it be that people with mental illnesses see/hear/feel things in a different way than "normal" people? As we know, small children and animals have repeatedly been "said" to be more aware of spirit activity than others. One theory on that phenomenon is that children have not yet been programmed to believe that ghosts do not exist and animals are believed to see things in a different spectrum than humans. In turn, spirits are thought to be made up of a different spectrum, which is not viewable in the spectrum in which we humans see. That is one of the reasons we think they show up in photos and videos more so than being seen with the naked eye. It is thought that perhaps a camera's lens is able to see things more perfectly than the human eye, which considering today's technology, that is very understandable. So, back to my point.... Could certain mental illnesses cause a person to see things in a different spectrum? Are they more open and suseptable to the things around us?
Theory 2
Consider the fact that mental illnesses, such as the ones mentioned above, can cause excessive energy and mixed emotions among other things of course. Well, seeing how spirits are "said" to "feed" off of energy and emotions, it seems that a person with one of these mental illnesses would be a pretty good source of energy and emotions, doesn't it? Not to mention, spirits (especially mallevolent ones) are "said" to target people who "have their guard down" or aren't feeling quite right due to lack of sleep, illness, being under the influence of drugs or alchohol or whatever the case may be. There have been many documented and proven cases where people (even experienced paranormal investigators that we personally know) have become possessed, because their guard was down. So, is it possible that spirits could target people with mental illnesses?
Theory 3
The doctors are right. The symptoms, which sensitives describe are simply the effects of their mental illness.
Some Sound Advice
Spend some time searching the internet and learn all you can about all of the mental disorders mentioned above. If you are experiencing many of the symptoms of Schizotypal Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia or any of the other mental disorders listed above, the most rational advice I could possibly give you is talk to your doctor. Again, only believe of doctors what you feel is right as well! I would hate to see anyone become a lab rat by having doctors experiment on them with mental medications!
If you truely feel what you are experiencing is real, there are other options, but they are based entirely on non-scientifically and non-medically proven, mystical belief systems and I strongly urge you to use extreme caution and use good judgement before you decide to follow the advice of other "sensitive"/"psychic" type people. Only believe of them what you feel is right and please realize that the vast majority of "psychics" are fake and under no circumstances agree to give ANYONE any sort of payment for removing spirits from your home, regardless of whether they are a psychics or paranormal investigators! Even if what you are experiencing is truely happening, there is NO ONE that can (with any certainty) rid your home of spirits, regardless of what they will tell you! If you do choose to seek alternative help of this nature, just spend some time searching Google for "sensitives". You may want to check out www.helpforsensitives.com.
Another option would be to try and rid your home of the spirits yourself (again, if you truely feel you are dealing with spirits). Once again, the methods listed below are non-scientific and unproven, but they may be worth a try if neither of the other options work out for you. More information can be found on the following page of our website: www.strangehappenings.org/I-Have-Ghosts.htm
Some Common Unproven Methods For Gettting Rid Of Spirits, Ghosts And Entities Spirits:
Sunlight will diminish a spirit's activity almost immediately. Rosemary works beautifully to render a spirit dormant. If you don't want the dried herbs around - try planting a little. Keep a little potted plant of rosemary in the room that the activity seemed centered around.
Ghosts
Sunlight - sunlight - sunlight - let the light in! Stop acknowledging it and don't talk to it, don't talk about it in your home.. even if it manifests itself right in front of you. If you don't put energy into it - it can't stay. Consider blessing, if you are of a religious nature, consider having the clergyman or religious figure of your choosing bless your home and everyone in it.
Entities
Natural light can render the entity dormant if you take measures to clear up your home life too. No more yelling, and work on clearing up problems, and you can stop the problem before it starts. DO NOT throw holy water around your house or attempt any spirit depart rituals by yourself, this will tend to only anger the entity and it will show you precisely how displeased it is with you between midnight and 3am.
The Following Is An Excerpt From "Footsteps in the Attic" by Paul F. Eno. Be sure to visit his website at www.newenglandghosts.com. He seems to be a very educated individual, and very experienced in ghost and paranormal research. He has many different, metaphysical/quantum physics based views and theories on ghosts and the paranormal. I (Aedryan Methyus) personally feel that these sciences may hold the key to learning many secrets about the paranormal as well as the universe in general. Paul Eno states as follows:
If You Believe You Are Having A Paranormal Problem In Your Home, Here Are Some Things You Can Try:
1. Don't jump to conclusions. Always look for everyday explanations for whatever is happening before deciding that you have ghost problems. Consider psychiatric and other health factors as well. (Hearing and seeing things can be a sign of schizophrenia or temporal-lobe epilepsy.) Banging sounds on the walls or in the heating system can have very mundane explanations!
One fascinating explanation for many phenomena are very low-frequency sound waves or "standing waves." Trapped in a building, these can cause many of the phenomena associated with ghosts. These waves are inaudible to humans but not to many animals. In humans, they can cause feelings of cold, nervousness, "hair standing up on the back of the neck," minor poltergeist activity and even your basic apparition.
2. Bear in mind that if what we've said about "quantum reality" is true, every person and every house will experience space-time "glitches" now and then: the occasional shadow seen out of the corner of your eye, or the iron or bit of clothing found now and again where you didn't put it.
Don't let your imagination take over!
Remember, too, that in places where highly traumatic events are occurring in your house in other areas of space-time, you may experience some of the psychic "ripples." Violent deaths, great suffering and other such events that happened or will happen there can affect your reality. Depending on how sensitive you are, you may hear or see things that don't necessarily mean that your house is "haunted" or that you or other household members are the targets of negative entities.
Nevertheless, it's always best to be on the safe side and to do what's suggested below.
It's when these "glitches" begin to rule your everyday life, when you feel threatened by them and/or when entities begin to clearly manifest and interact with you or your family that you have a paranormal problem.
3. If you conclude that you do have such a situation, realize that you and/or one or more household members are part of the problem. Consciously or unconsciously, people in troubled houses always have a part in causing and/or feeding the phenomena. So you need to find what you're doing that's introducing or encouraging negative energy.
4. Then you need to stop it and bring in positive energy to replace it. I find this always eases the situation and often cures it.
Examples of negative energy: using Ouija boards or other occult practices that "open the door" to parasites, negative feelings among those who live in the house (fights, grudges, financial strains, etc.) and the extreme depression or anxiety of you or any other household member.
5. Part of bringing in this positive energy is fostering good feeling, humor, love and other unifying and uplifting factors in your household. Also, good physical exercise and developing healthy interests outside the home will help.
This is always good for a household, whether you have paranormal problems or not.
6. If you do encounter an "orb," entity or other manifestation, try to avoid fear or anger. If it really is a negative entity, this will deny it the negative energy it subsists on. As a matter of fact, always try to send out feelings of love, compassion and peace.
7. In general, however, do not give these entities attention. Do not try to communicate with them: They are not your friends! Don't try to get "chummy" and don't convince yourself to feel comfortable with them around, even if they seem "friendly."
Instead, concentrate on fostering positive energy among the household members.
8. Anytime you are afraid, pray in whatever way is comfortable for you. Visualize yourself, other household members and your home engulfed in a peaceful, positive white light. This will "take the wind" out of a negative manifestation by strengthening you instead of it.
9. This is not advice you often hear in the Western Hemisphere but, when you are afraid, you can call upon your good ancestors (not the horse thieves or mad monarchs) to help protect you and your home. I find that this is a very powerful practice! Each of us is the sum of our ancestors, no matter how far back they go. We are part of them and they are part of us. Since there really is no death, these loved ones are always in some parallel world and there is a bond between you and them. Many are in a position to help.
Call especially on particular loved ones you have known, a beloved grandmother, for example. If you are fortunate enough to have a picture of the person, put it in a prominent place in your home or carry it in your pocket or purse. These people will manifest as quiet and loving presences, and some may be protecting you already. Their presence is a far cry from the cold, sterile and sometimes violent presence of parasites and tulpas.
10. If you belong to a particular religion, praying and using "sacramentals" and sacred objects such as icons, your scriptures or holy water can help. Strange to say, beware of calling in clergy unless you are very sure they can be trusted. Believe it or not, very few of them are trained in how to deal with these phenomena and if they don't know what they're doing they can complicate the situation.
If you are seeing/hearing/feeling/sensing dead people, we wish you the best of luck in finding a solution! Please do us a favor and help us learn more about it by sharing your stories with us and definitely let us know of you have tried these or any other methods for dealing with your situation and what results you did or didn't have!
Yours In Strange Happenings,
Aedryan _________________
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cereal_killette Curious About Ghosts

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| *sigh*...ok...heres the deal...i have been diagonosed with schizo-effective disorder....i brought up the activity in my home...i am taking a drug called abilify and am taking 45 mg.(pretty high dose) for the seeing/hearing things..but...i stil see and hear things...and...im not the only person who has experienced it in my homes...when i 1st moved in the place i live now, for example, my ex and i were being intimate with the bedroom door locked-and no one else- even my kids-were home....out of nowhere the door FLEW open so hard it left a hole in the wall where the doorknob hit..no windiws were open and i stress it was only us in the house...the house i live in is a duplex and i used to live in the top 1/2 where a woman had hug herself in the living room closet....i have AT LEAST 15+ witnesses to see the latch at the top lift off-yes lift- and the doors open...so..anyways..i broached this with my psychiatrist..i was like..i know your either going to laugh or up my meds lol...but i wanna ask you...and i proceededto tell him what was going on that the meds either weent working or something was up...he told me- get this...energy doesent end..when we die theres all this energy..where does it go? it manefests in itw own way....that he believed ibn the afterlife...weird huh? this man who has this degree that finds reasons for why we think this is real and how most think its bs...believed it wasnt nuts...that if i was hearing an seeing this stuff despite the meds SOMETHING was determined to be heard...idk...take it as you want...but like i said ever since i was small i dealt with this... |
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Aedryan Methyus Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Apr Mon 16, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for sharing and for being honest, CK! Definitely sounds like some very interesting experiences! Your psychiatrist seems to share the same popular belief that most people in the paranormal believe, in regards to the First Law Of Thermodynamics....
- Do the meds EVER seem to help? I mean, have there ever been times where the seeing and/or hearing things was really intense and you took the meds and everything slowed down or ceased altogether, etc?
- Have you noted any kind of pattern, as to when you see/hear/experience more things than other times (in regards to certain times of day/month/year, etc)?
- Aproximately how often do you see/hear/experience these things?
Thanks again for sharing!
- Aedryan _________________
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WhiteProphecy Curious About Ghosts

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I am not gonna go stomp of and pout or something... that would be rather immature... and thank you for pointing me to rebutt here... However there arent many things to rebutt.. your theories are based on the MOST.. and thats fine... however your claim of ALWAYS, is what i was rebutting...
And if you would like to to know more about my visits with "proffessionals, i'd be more than happy to... i have nothing to hide, and dont mind given ya the info.
I was really just saying that saying something like "ALWAYS" in a place that was created as free grounds to tell your story is not a good way to allow people the comfort of doing so.
Like a said before, i dont mean to be rude, but saying such difinitive words isnt the way to make people feel comfortable especially when this isnt a topic most find comfortable to begin with.
I have come here for a long time, and i remember you saying the reason for creating this forum was to give people a place to come and freely tell their story and to allow them to do so without feeling like as soon as they said something they would get jumped on.
I know you didnt mean to do that, i hey, i might be overreacting, i was just stating that using words such as those are a good way to lose people rather than bring them here.
I love this forum, and would not want something to happen like what it was like when i first came here... dead...
When i first came to this site, it was by accident and there werent even like 2 or 3 posts every couple of days... but now its back to how you used to describe it.. there are people comin and tellin their stories, and sharing their views.
And hey, i am always game for a discussion or debate... whatever the "correct term" is.. hah.
So like i said, if you would like to know more about my visits, and more about my past to see if i am truly telling you the truth about there being pretty much nothing wrong with me, i would be more than happy to. Just say the word
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Aedryan Methyus Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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I didn't jump anyone. If anybody jumped someone, it was you, WP. You dug up an ancient post and asked me to explain why I say "always" and I explained myself in the nicest way possible.
For anyone else who stumbles into this discussion, I will post WP's post to me, along with my response to him/her? below:
| WhiteProphecy wrote: | Hey there aedryan. It's been awhile since i was last here... however ive been busy with work and the like...But enough about that...
I would like to know where you get your data, and the claim that "sensitives" ALWAYS have mental illness? The reason i ask this, is well... as some of you well know, i consider myself a sensitive.. and as for your claim that ALL of us are just crazy... i can claim, and know that i do not suffer from any mental illness... I have been seen by a few psychologists, and psychiatrists in the 21 years of my life, and none has ever come up with a diagnosis of any mental illness. In fact the last one i saw (a few years back) said that the only thing wrong with me was a lack of motivation (it was while i was still in school and my mother wanted to know if there was a reason i wasn't doing well in school). Not only that, but i am myself working towards a psychology degree, and have thus been in contact with psychologists for almost 2 years, and not one has yet to say anything ( and yes i do talk to them about my problems if somthing comes up that i feel i need help, or outside views).
Not to sound rude, or obnoxious, but i would just like to know why you feel you are able to put the label of ALWAYS... i mean that's a pretty strong word... it is so diffinitive.
And before you ask, the only known case of mental illness even related to my family comes from a woman my uncle (my mom's brother) married. So it isnt even blood related to me. Not that i don't realize that some cases go undiagnosed and that the possibility is there that someone in my family has a mental illness...
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| Aedryan Methyus wrote: | | WhiteProphecy wrote: |
I would like to know where you get your data, and the claim that "sensitives" ALWAYS have mental illness?
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I say ALWAYS, because pretty much everyone (I can almost say EVERYONE) i've ever spoken with, who says they see/hear/feel/sense/talk to dead people admit to having been diagnosed with SOME form of mental illness, whether it be Bipolar Disorder, Schizophrenia, Manic Depression, Schizotypal Personality Disorder or all of the above. I wish I would have been keeping track all along, but a really close estimate would be, out of 20 or so "sensitives" i've spoken with over the past 2 or 3 years, maybe only 2 of them "said" they hadn't been diagnosed with anything. That's a pretty obvious pattern in my book....
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i consider myself a sensitive.. and as for your claim that ALL of us are just crazy... i can claim, and know that i do not suffer from any mental illness... I have been seen by a few psychologists, and psychiatrists in the 21 years of my life, and none has ever come up with a diagnosis of any mental illness. In fact the last one i saw (a few years back) said that the only thing wrong with me was a lack of motivation....
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I don't mean to be rude or insensitive either, but if you've had the need to be seen by "A FEW psychologists, and psychiatrists", isn't that an indicator that there may be a problem somewhere? Did you tell these few psychologists, and psychiatrists that you are seeing/hearing/sensing/feeling/talking to spirits and/or otherworldly beings, etc? I happen to be very close friends with someone in the paranormal community who has some mental problems and we've had this discussion many times. This person even attests that doctors will pretty much automatically diagnose a person with one of the said mental illnesses with the slightest mention of such experiences. I mean, let's be honest here, that's just not normal....
Before ya stomp off mad now, please take a moment to read my theories about sensitives here:
My Theories About Sensitives
As you'll see, i'm not necessarily saying that sensitives are just a bunch of nut jobs, but I do think there is a very strong liklihood that the things they experience are due to a mental illness, one way or the other. If you disagree with my theories, please be sure to post your rebuttals in that thread....
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em I Realize The Warrens Are Full O' Poop

Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 449 Location: sydney!!
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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Hey,
First of all Welcome to the Big World.......unfortunalty no matter who you are and what you do, you will always find someone with a different view, and for this subject i guess you will find alot of them and i am sorry to say that those people that really do see/hear/feel/sense things expect to have questions and people giving there view about this topic ALOT! This is the unknown(just like everything else in the paranormal word)and for this there are no real facts to stand for what you people discribe except what is mentioned above!!
I think that in these cases that YES alot of the time these people suffer from a Illness, and in some cases people just need to stop taking drugs but putting that all aside for a sec, i do believe that there are people out there that do experiance things like you say you do WP and no one is saying that what You/see/hear/feel/sense is caused by any of these things but i can understand Aedryans point of view on this, he asked me the same question when i posted a question and this was something unrelated to this. I answered him no questions asked...Why?? well because from what i can gather that being in the Paranormal field of work that he has surely come across some real (well lets just they an't the sharpest tools in the shed....in some cases i don't think they can find the shed)i know they are out there and i work a deskjob.... and out of those people to those who REALLY see/hear/feel/sense things are slim. Again how can you help a person unless you have facts!! And when it comes to facts....in this case Aedryan has it!!!!
But again this is just another point of view!!!
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butterfly39 I Realize TAPS Fakes Evidence


Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 327
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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: disorders and the paranormal |
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Wow, this is quite the discussion going here. I told em I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, but i'm going to anyway. I don't have the knowledge that aedryan and others in this subject have, but i will express my opinion anyway (Since this is an open forum). I'm torn. I agree that some individuals could be classified with what aedryan expressed in his views, but I'd also like to think that there are some individuals, that just might have that extra intuitiveness that makes them special. These are probably some who don't tell anyone for fear that they might be called crazy. When I was younger, I had an experience, and I don't believe i had a mental ailment. I've never been diagnosed with one, and have never had to go get professional help, either. But Aedryan does make valid points, and I feel that he has handled his opinions on the issue fairly and with tact. There are probably some who just might need some help, and you can't close all doors if the only option the individual has considered is that it might be of paranormal origin. The individual must consider all options, I think. And not be offended if others don't share the same opinion. Hope I haven't offended anyone.
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Aedryan Methyus Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Em and Butterfly, don't give me too much credit. I do not claim to be an expert on this or any other subject when it comes to the paranormal. Pretty much any opinion I have about the paranormal is based on nothing more than common sense.
All I have ever asked of "sensitives" and "psychics" is to backup their claims with honest to goodness evidence and to this date, none have ever came forth. Discussions on this hot button topic never have a happy ending. It sucks even having to insinuate to someone that they may have a mental illness. On the other hand, it would take a real dope to just simply believe everything that everyone tells them to be genuine, authentic, indisputable evidence of paranormal activity, without considering logical explanations. I think this is especially true with sensitives and psychics, because they are always (yes, always) so quick to formulate a ghostly explanation for every little occurrence and proclaim it to be factual....
- Aedryan _________________
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em I Realize The Warrens Are Full O' Poop

Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 449 Location: sydney!!
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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Aedryan,
I am not so much giving you credit but really agreeing with your thoughts on this subject!!! but like i also said i do think that there are people out there with these abilities!!! |
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butterfly39 I Realize TAPS Fakes Evidence


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Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: I'm not giving you too much credit i think |
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I'm just saying, since you've obviously done some research on the subject, judging by your posts, that you know more than me. I'm just curious about the paranormal, and have never come across a discussion like this one before, and wanted to give my opinion.
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WhiteProphecy Curious About Ghosts

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Jul Tue 03, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Aedryan... i wasnt saying you jumped on anything... or anyone... however, i didnt drudge up some ancient post on my own... it was on the 10 last posted list on the top of the page... i wasnt trolling to see if i could make anyone mad...
Nor was i trying to poke and prod you, it's just like i said... most people who come to forums, or talk in private conversations and bring this subject up are jumped on...
I wasnt attempting to say that you were doing any jumping..
And like i said a long time ago in your challange sticky, i would be more than happy to come out on a hunt or two with you guys, and you can test til your heart's content, but you said you no longer really hunt.. so i am currently lookin for a group in my area, and i will provide you wih as much evidence as you would like.
And about the mental illness... i agree, that many people you claim to see things are infact hallucinating... and do indeed suffer from a form of mental illness... however i was attempting to point out how someone may feel when coming to a place that says we are an open forum, and then they read that and see exactly what they left other sites for...
And i dont mean the suggestion of mental illness, i mean the finality and diffinitivity of words like ALWAYS, and ALL, etc... especially when used with the suggestion of mental illness..
I am sorry that you took my post as something that i was jumping on you, or anything like that, i was just wondering why you would say something like ALWAYS... it is akin to asking someone why they say something is FACT... i wasnt taking a poke at you personally or saying "how dare you even suggest that" , because i understand and agree with the fact that many of the people who claim to see things, do infact suffer from mental illness.
I didnt mean for it to make waves, or make people uncomfortable...
P.S. i didnt seee this post before i posted in the other forum, so you can just ignore that post... heh :/ sry... _________________ You only have to open your eyes... |
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Aedryan Methyus Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Jul Tue 03, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Hey, it's cool, WP. There are no hard feelings on this end and you have the right to question anything I say, just like I would.
I agree that words like "always", "all" and "fact", etc are pretty definitive terms and honestly, I really do try to use them with care. But, in regards to sensitives, i've just talked to sooooo many of them that DO have mental illnesses compared to the ones that say they don't. My estimated 20/3 ratio is a pretty fair estimate (and I would say you're probably the 3rd, WP). Taking that into consideration in combination with the aforementioned, medically recognized mental illnesses, which have symptoms that are identical to the experiences described by sensitives/psychics, it's pretty difficult to not say always. And still yet, the problem with my 20/3 apx. ratio is, i'm pretty certain that any sensitive/psychic, who would go and explain their experiences to a psychiatrist in vivid detail, is going to walk out of there with some sort of mental prognosis and a prescription. I would probably put money on that....
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fratka Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study


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I would have to take Victor Zammit's position on the subject. Instead of trying to prove something exists, try to prove it doesn't. Either way it is beyond proof.
Self-proclaimed psychics and mediums are a dime a dozen and usually suffer from a low self-esteem and have a overwhelming urge to be special. They are so tied up in the mundane trench of their physical world they have forgotten the miracle of dreams and imagination. They have forgotten how to look at the world with the eyes of a child who accepts they know nothing instead of pretending they do.
The point is, all that you have learned while here (on earth) is an illusion. We have been taught to ignore the invisible and only pay attention to the tangible. We have been told that faith is the only way to salvation when there is no salvation. We are what we are and we are here, on earth for one reason. The evolution of mind in matter!
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