My poor, stressed kid

Ysbail · Guest

Well, I'm basically just updating some posting I'd done on the old board with regard to my 6-year-old and her entity.

She's had a couple more incidences, both when we're forgotten to put her cross on her in the shower. In one, she was screaming bloody murder and had scratch marks again. This time it looked like three fingeres, and ran from her navel to her neck in a somewhat swirling motion. She swears she didn't do it herself, and given what the marks look like, I can see how it would be hard to do herself.

I talked to her familiy doctor, and she's going to start seeing a counselor soon. She's been more and more stressed lately the longer her natural father has been out of her life. Plus, I've now got a medical issue that has her very worried, so her stress level is shooting through the roof. Hopefully if we get her stressed reduced, all will calm down for her.

What I didn't tell her is that I think I've now finally seen it myself. It was just a moment, but I think I saw it at the end of the hallway the morning she was scratched. It was only for a second, but I saw a very tall, very thin, black, angular shadow-type mass (it didn't seen humanoid at all to me, just tall and angular, the "head" was probably a 2-foot long, skinny rectangle set at about a 45 degree angle from the body) at the end of the hallway, right between the two walls. It was there one second and then gone. Fifteen minutes later, kiddo was in the shower screaming. Maybe they're not related, but the timing seemed odd.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

shaybeck · Guest

Have you thought about having someone investigate your home? It seems that your daughter is terrified and if there is a way and you get the right investigation team it may calm her fears and help you all deal with what's going on in your home after all I'm a firm believer that knowledge of what is happening helps a lot and it gives you a new perspective of how to deal with it rather than live in a state of what to do....As far as the marks? Well I'm beginning to think that it sometimes happens....why? your guess is as good as mine...Keep us posted...sorry I couldn't help any further....

Ysbail · Guest

Well, I'm not sure investigating the home will do much good. It seems to be focused on her. We've moved twice since this started (which I'm sure is contributing to the stress immensely). Dunno, just weird.

rhyknow · Guest

it could be a poltergeist? Just throwing the suggestion out there

Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Apr Thu 20, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Ysbail,
I get scratches on my body all the time that I do not remember getting. I always have. My wife is always asking me, where did you get that big scratch?" and my reply is always, "Beats me!". But, there are always several possible explanations.

1) It could be from a forgotten itch.

2) It could simply be from getting scratched on something and forgetting about it.

3) It could be from a small, scratchy object that gets tracked in bed (or anywhere else for that matter).

4) Scratchy bedding.

5) Scratchy clothing.

6) It could be from a pet.

The list goes on and on....

As with all things, you always have to sit back and take an honest look at explainable causes for things before attributing them to paranormal activity. Have any other strange things ever happened in your house, which gives you reason to believe you may be experiencing ghost activity?

Also, let me get something straight. You make your daughter wear a cross around her neck when she takes a bath? That brings up several questions in itself, but here are just a few; Why do you do this? What reason do you give your 6 year old daughter for doing this? Why would you ever leave a 6 year old child in the bathtub/shower unattended? Aside from the obvious, the reason I ask is, because if she was being supervised, you would know exactly how she is getting scratched....

My advice is to refrain from talking about ghosts around your daughter (if you are doing that). It sounds like she probably has enough other worries as it is. And lastly, I too have a 6 year old daughter and guess what. They're little liars! LOL You just can't believe a whole lot of what they say.

Hope this helps.

- Aedryan
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shaybeck · Guest

Ysbail,
Your telling me that the problem seems to be just with your daughter..Well your last post said you saw something, or thought you saw something at the end of the hall...I would start to wonder..if it was my child...

My daughter wears a cross around her neck...I don't bend that way in religion..but if she wants to do it so be it...it's her choice...but I personally wouldn't make her wear it...

If she feels that it's protecting her then...well..tha's her choice...

Meth I don't like to disagree with you but...a child of 6 could be experiencing things that they don't understand and also to a parent it may look like a fantasy world that they are making up or they may just be trying to get more attention from the parents by making things up..but sometimes that's not the case..In my own experience I've seen things as a child that I still see..not saying this is the same thing but...What happened to me was very real at the time and is still real and without sounding like an idiot...don't underestimate what a child is telling you...you could very well learn something from them..

As far as the scratches? Who knows...I had marks on my forearm that I can't explain but I'm a lot older...and ysbail you should follow through with what meth tells you..I'm not the expert here...I'm like everyone else..just trying to find the answers....And you should always look for a logical explanation before jumping to conclusions that's a good thing to do...I always try to go through every process...like
1. What I did that day (or what my daughter did)
2. How could those scratches get there? I would also check my daughters body before every shower to see if the marks are there before hand
3. And this is the most important.....Is your daughter being clingy...grabbing onto you all the time..scared all the time..or just reacting to the break up...I'm talking from experience here ....I've been there...so I know how they re-act...if she is truely clingy and seems to be scared all the time...I'll give you my e-mail address and it may be a bigger problem than you thought...Just private message me...I'll respond. Hope I can help you...shaybeck

Ysbail · Guest

We've wondered about a poltergeist actually. Given the stress level and all...

Oh, and I don't really "make" her wear the cross. Hmm, lemme backtrack because I went into more detail on the old board.

When I was younger, I also saw "things." I usually saw large black shadow-y like shapes. I was always relieved that, after some initial "are you SURE" questioning, Mom took me seriously when that happened, because I was afraid she'd think I was a loon. My family is Christian, so she bought me a silver cross and said to remember God was always watching out for me. So even when I still saw stuff from time to time, I at least felt safe.

When I got older, Mom let me know she had "seen" things when she was younger, too. Her grandfather had been there when she saw one of her apparitions (he didn't see it, but ran through the house to the backyard to her when he heard her screaming and saw his favorite granddaughter scared out of her mind), and had gotten her a silver charm to wear, and told her that silver had special properties and would keep her safe (whether he really believed it did, or whether he told her that to feel better, I don't know).

Mom's policy with us kids (all four of us saw different things at about the same stage in our lives) was not to outright dismiss it, but to tell us that it may have been our imagination or a shadow or something, but even if it wasn't, nothing could hurt us, and give us some kind of necklace or charm so we'd feel "protected."

Mom's approach had been very comforting when I was young, so for better or worse, I've used the same approach with my daughter. I let her know that it was probably just a shadow or maybe she's stressed, but if it was real it couldn't hurt her, and I gave her a cross Mom gave me (the original one is long gone) to let her know that all of us and God are with her at all times so she has no need to be afraid. And she seems to find a lot of comfort in it. If she's forgotten it and gets halfway through the day, her eyes get big, but I let her know she's made it through that much of the day just fine, she's got nothing to worry about.

As for why I don't stay in the shower with her - well, that's selfish on my part. Since I had divorced her father when she was young, and her father kind of all but took off, she's very clingy. For a long time, I couldn't go to the bathroom without her sitting right outside the door. So once she was old enough to wash her hair and everything herself, I worked on getting her to let me out of the room. Otherwise I was up at 5:30 every morning so I could spend an hour in the shower - half an hour so I could clean up, half an hour so she could. If I could peg when she'd see things better, I'd take a few mornings to get an early start and sit in there again. As it is now, though, I'm a lazy bastard and already barely get her to school on time, heh...

However, I do get her going every morning. I put her cross on her, I gather her pajamas, I turn the water on for her, set her robe out, and generally get her set up. Since I see her naked every morning because of this, I know she didn't have a scratch going in. Now it's possible she could have scratched herself while she was in there with three of her own fingers, but the way the scratch was placed and ran consistently for about 14 inches, it would have been a very deliberate thing for her to do. I'm not saying she DIDN'T do it, I'm just saying I personally find it doubtful, knowing my kid. (Although admittedly, I am looking at her through a mother's eyes.)

And I know 6-year-olds can be prone to "fantasy." I've also gotten pretty good at calling my daughter on it. She does this thing with her eyes that's a dead giveaway. And when I call her on it, she breaks down pretty quick. When she sticks adamantly to the same story, I tend to give her a bit of credit.

I dunno, that information may or may not help. I think every mother worries that she's setting her child up for years worth of therapy, ha! At least I do. Wink

When I got older, I wasn't so scared, so we'll just wait it all out I suppose.

rhyknow · Guest

Listen; Meth i'm not trying to get up anyones ass but... The subject ain't on anyones parenting... As for scratches well, meth could be right. But seeing stuff? well, i'd say poltergeist

fratka · Posted: Apr Fri 21, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

I don't think Meth was trying to comment on anyones parenting skills, I think he was just trying to tell her to look at other mundane options before attributing these scratches to the paranormal. I think also he made his comments without reading her other posts on the other forum so he didn't have all the information.

At least that was my impression! I have come back from graveyards with three scratches (it seems to be always three scratches, at least with me anyway). After racking my brain, trying to remember where I could have gotten them, I couldn't. I couldn't come up with any rational explanation. Then again, like Meth said I don't always know when I get scratched until someone else sees it and makes a comment. Happens all the time when I go to my ranch. LOL

Anyway Ysbail, does she make any other comments about voices, objects moving, strange noises or anything else out of the ordinary. Besides the shadow "you thought you saw", have you noticed anything else you may have written off as the house settling, optical illusion, auditory illusion, or anything else that we adults try to rationalize?

Like Shaybeck says, does she show any irrational fears. My son (6) has a thing about zombies, he knows all about ghosts so his fears went to zombies who will eat his brains. I told him that the zombies are afraid of the ghouls under his bed so they won't come out of the closet. Ghouls eat zombies! LOL...BTW, I'm kidding!

I have 2 boys, ages 6 and 3 so I know all about tall tales and fishing stories. LOL
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Aedryan Methyus · Posted: Apr Sat 22, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject:

rhyknow · Guest

I guess my first reply was based on a simple misconception then. Sorry meth. But the scratches... OK, they might be attributed to plain ol' carelessness and could happen anywhere at anytime. BUT... I'm just a little speculative since shadowy forms have been seen, i may not attribute it to poltergeist activity but... it seems like a weird coincidence. Plus Ysbail mentions that her child is really frightened of something. Coincidence?

Ysbail · Guest

Bummer, I thought I'd already replied, but apparently I didn't do it right.

Anyway, there has been activity for quite a while, and in a couple of different places (since we've moved a few times).

Rather than re-type everything, here's a post to the original link in the old forum:

http://www.chatarea.com/StrangeHappeningsGhostAndHauntingsResearchSociety.m3426924

The other day she said she heard a voice say "beep." Which sounds incredibly silly, I know. She was very insistent about it. We figured it was probably the security system, which is on the wall between our bedrooms, so we purposefully MADE it beep, and she insisted that wasn't it, that she has heard a voice SAY "Beep." I have no clue what to make of that.

Anyway, she starts counseling next Monday, so hopefully things will get better, irregardless of what's causing all of this.

shaybeck · Guest

Ysbail,
You know I've replied to this post before and well...I started to think back to when my kids were little and the things they were afraid of...I have 3 daughters ...we are blended or what some people call an extended family...meaning the two oldest are mine from a previous marriage and I also have a step daughter....So...when I started to ponder about the things that they would tell me when they were younger I remember my oldest turning totally white when my husband and I started talking about something standing in the hall..now we were whispering "so we wouldn't freak the kids out" ..so later that day my oldest said .."Hey mom I just wanted to tell you that I've been seeing the same thing in the hall and thought it was my imagination...she was 13 at the time
After that there was a time when all 3 girls would not sleep in one of the bedrooms...they were terrified of it...they all had different stories about that room...so hehe we turned it into a computer room...They didn't seem to have a problem being in there if they were all together but wouldn't go in the room by themselves...I use to laugh because it was like "Hey I'm going to use the computer" and all 3 of them would go in the room Laughing

As for what your daughter is experiencing ...only time will tell really...as she matures things will get clearer for her and as long as she is unharmed...as a parent I would listen,,rationalize the situation..and also try very hard to let her know that you sympathize with her and not try to de-bunk what she is saying.....Also try to do this without putting a fear in her....that's my 2 cents...I hope the therapy session went well ? Keep us posted...

rhyknow · Guest

I would say that a lot of the time, younger kids see things (I.E. shadows etc.) and might attribute these things to paranormal activity. It's natural, like being scared of the dark when you are a young child... Also childrens minds are prone to exaggerate... I'm not trying to debunk your kid's experiences, but i'm just trying to find a rational explanation before we start shouting about ghosts from the rooftops... Another possibility could be that your kid saw something that visually manifests itself differently. In other words, you see a shadowy form, your kid sees something else that terrifies them. Keep us posted and I hope the therapy goes well...

Rhyknow

catfishtuna · Guest

I am new to the forums and site, so I hope I am not over stepping any boundaries if I chime in on this subject. I am not sure what all of you guys do or exactly how much you guys know about the subject of ghosts etc... I am new so it may take some time to get to know some of you guys.
I agree with a lot of the advice that has been givin. Childrens minds are very fragile, and their imagination will run with just about any crazy idea. I am going to ask a series of questions please dont be offended I am not asking about your parenting skills. I am trying to get some background information on you and your families habits. The child in question ( I am not sure if you said her name),
1: Do you let her watch scary movies? Or have you caught her watching scary movies?
2: Does anyone around her try and scare her? (Friends, siblings, neighbor kids?)
3: Do you watch any scary shows and talk about ghosts around your child? (Scary shows meaning, ghost hunter T.V. shows, or documentaries about haunted houses or ghosts.)
4: How long has this been going on with this little girl? (From about what age?)
5: Do you worry about ghosts and poltergeists alot? (Fear them?)

Thats just a few questions I have for now. Again please dont be offended by any of these questions. I take a different approach when looking at things like this. I am not looking down or aiming any of this at your parenting skills. If I over stepped a line in any way please let me know.