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PostPosted: Apr Tue 18, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well meth, you have a point there. Ever since i had my first disastrous ouija session, i've been seriously jumpy, and i'm scared of the dark a lot... I may go into this on another post....

J

PS, would you be able to post the photos of spirits in your house on the forums? Question
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PostPosted: Apr Tue 18, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is "Our Holy Grail" I actually keep the original locked up in a safe:


[img]http://www.gotghosts.us/Paul_in_basement[/img]
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PostPosted: Apr Tue 18, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried twice to post the image. It wont take. Here is a link to it. This is our "Holy Grail". We actually keep the original locked up in a safe.....lol


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PostPosted: Apr Tue 18, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In regards to 3:00 AM, the hours between 9:00 PM and 6:00 AM are considered to be the "Psychic Hours" and 3:00 AM is thought to be the peak of the psychic hours, when spirit activity is at its highest. I don't fully understand this theory, nor do I really know where it derived from, but to my knowledge it has to do with the alignment of the moon and the stars. I don't necessarily believe there is a lot of truth in it, but when we do our investigations we always extend them till at least 4:00 AM just in case. I can't say that we have captured any more evidence during those hours than any other time though.

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Well meth, you have a point there. Ever since i had my first disastrous ouija session, i've been seriously jumpy, and i'm scared of the dark a lot... I may go into this on another post....

PS, would you be able to post the photos of spirits in your house on the forums?


A good, creepy Ouija Board session never fails to leave you with that creeped out, sketchy feeling for a few days! In regards to posting photos on the forums, I think you can link to photos that are online, but I decided against allowing uploads, because we will soon have our own community photo gallery, which will allow our visitors to upload their photos and even start their own galleries, where we will all be able to comment, vote and rate their pics, etc. I had it all setup and redy to go before this last big move, but I think i'm going to have to start from scratch again. >8>( I'll keep everyone posted on that.

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PostPosted: Oct Sun 08, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since someone had posted a question in the "Safe And Happy Ghost Hunting" thread and I directed them to this post, I figured I would go ahead and revise this old thread....

It has now been a few months since I have been actively ghost hunting and a lot of my thoughts and views about ghosts have changed during this time. My thoughts and views are a lot more skeptical now then they have been in the past and i've gotta say, I haven't been as jumpy at night and I rarely (if ever) get that "freaked out" feeling nowadays. A person seeing things move or zip by out of the corners of their eyes no longer carries any weight in my opinion, as I can usually find a logical explanation for it when it happens. I attribute a lot of it to being up extremely late at night and being way overly tired. Your eyes play tricks on you and you can even hallucinate to some degree when you are overly tired.

But, in regards to "ghost hunting and psychological damage" in relationship to the feeling of being followed home by something after an investigation, I think it a lot of it could possibly be attributed to a phase that ghost hunters go through. It may or may not pass in time. Who knows.... All I can say is, since I haven't been ghost hunting for quite awhile and realizing during this time that A LOT of the anomalies we were photographing are NOT paranormal related whatsoever and becoming a bit more skeptical, all of the jumpiness and freaked out feelings at night have subdued....

It could just be, because I haven't been ghost hunting for quite awhile and thus I haven't been constantly reviewing evidence and thinking about ghosts constantly OR it could be that nothing has followed me home, BECAUSE I haven't been ghost hunting. It's just really hard to say....

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PostPosted: Oct Mon 09, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aedryan has touched on a point that I would like to echo and add some of my own thoughts. The things you see out of the corner of your eye!? Has anyone ever heard of floaters (concerning your eyes)? Floaters are little bits of biological material you are born with in your eye. Sometimes you see them as squiggly looking microbes swimming in the air, or dust particles floating on the surface of your eye, or even dark spots in the corner of your field of vision. That's right folks! Those dark spots in your peripheral vision are most likely left over biological material from when you were born.

I am not saying that "shadow people" don't exist. Actually I have video taped so called "shadow people" and know that the concept exists. Although I feel it is just another phase of ghostly transition and is not a permanent fixture on the ghostly plane or deserves its own classification of ghost type.

I actually get a kick out of the statements people make on forums like these when it comes to "shadow people"...."I saw it out of the corner of my eye but when I turned to look at it, it disappeared". Thats because you changed your field of vision and perspective, dork! I have seen so many websites describe them as elusive and quick because of the investigators error and incomplete documentation. It is snap judgements by investigators like these that will guarantee no field of science will ever take you seriously. The first thing you should have done when you noticed this anomaly is checked to see if there was a mundane or physiological explanation about your own vision, instead of attributing it to a "shadow ghost".

Bottom line is, practice good science and investigate fully before you pull a theory out of your ass. Find the most reasonable explanation, if it is more probable that the boring everyday explanation is true, then be honest with yourself and accept it. I know there is unexplained ghostly activity out there, many of us have seen it first hand but don't get overly excited and attribute every "anomaly" you see as being a ghostly one.

PS: Aedryan, you need to get back out there before you start doubting everything you have seen and heard. The human mind has a way of doing that.... You need to re-enforce your curiousity. The same curiousity that sparked your interest in the first place. You are getting a more "grown-up" view of the paranormal where you aren't frightned(sp) or freaked out by ghostly activity anymore. This time, when you move, join a group and let their leaders run it and setup the investigations. You just collect evidence and observe. Thats what I did and that is when I see the most activity. When I lead my own group I was so busy coordinating everyone that I never got to see anything unless it was on tape or recorder.

Find a good group that you half-way agree with their viewpoints and have fun.
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PostPosted: Oct Mon 09, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the "out of the corner of the eye" things I see are attributed to the television always being on right beside me when i'm sitting on the computer, so it reflects off of the walls and windows. Also, cars pulling back into our drive or passing by on the street and bugs flying around, because the kids run in and out all day long, letting them in the house, etc. As I said in my last post, I have noticed many times that my eyes will play tricks on me when i'm way overly tired too. You could even consider it to be hallucinating to some degree occasionally.

In regards to joining another group, I don't think that would ever work out.... lol I already have too much time and money invested in the SHGHRS. Even though I hate a lot of things that come along with being a "leader", I have never been one to follow in anything I do, let alone in paranormal investigation. It is a rare occurence when I encounter level headed ghost enthusiasts, who approach ghost study from a skeptical, scientific angle or even have somewhat realistic views and beliefs.
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You need to re-enforce your curiousity. The same curiousity that sparked your interest in the first place.

Heh.... Funny that you mention that. Matt - an SHGHRS member and I were just discussing this. That has everything to do with the somewhat negative outlook I have developed about ghost study over the past few months. When you first get into ghost hunting, it is extremely exciting and fascinating. It's awesome! You come into it with really high expectations, thinking that you will witness some sort of honest to goodness "poltergeist" or "demonic" activity AT LEAST once in a great while. I would even settle for ONCE! Unfortunately, it just NEVER happens.

So, between coming into ghost study with Hollywood expectations and never witnessing anything of the sort and then debunking pretty much every type of photographic anomaly in existence, I don't think it's possible for investigators to ever get that same spark back that they had in the beginning once they reach this point. Add most of the other paranormal group's cooky mystical theories that were set forth over 40 years ago by your old pals - Ed and Loraine Warren and it's almost like believing in the existence of "God" or flying pink unicorns. I literally know people that go fairy hunting for christ sakes! LOL!

I'm not saying that I have given up on believing in ghosts or pursuing ghost study entirely. I'm just saying that about 99% of the bullshit that people believe in and even document is just that! I've been telling people that I may as well rename our organization the "Strange Happenings EVP Society" and be done with it, because that's really about the only thing left now that's worth studying or that hasn't been debunked 100 times over.

It's like I told you before, Frank - The only way we are ever truely going to know if there is an after life and what it has in store (if anything), is for an extremely intelligent person to develop a procedure, which would allow some extremely brave individuals to have near death experiences, like on the movie - "Flatliners". We would literally have to have the ability to document people dying for a few minutes and being brought back to life to even remotely prove anything....

Can I see volunteers by show of hands!? Devil Wink

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PostPosted: Oct Mon 09, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know exactly what you are talking about here. All I take with me to investigations now are two voice recorders and a still camera. The recorders are for EVP of course and the cameras are for taking pictures of other investigators who are being silly.

I don't worry about the Warren's, Aubach's or Oesters of the world. They claim to be experts but end up spouting each others' bullshit or referencing Harry Price and Hans Holtzer books. They usually step on their own dicks and ruin their own name as they have done.
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PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is probably the only thing that puts me off going on ghost hunts, im not too fond of certain dark places in my home already, and its not haunted (I think Very Happy ) Where I live there are plenty of haunted plac to investigate, forests, hospitals, pubs, but i wouldnt like being followed home by an unknown spirit, however I do hope to go on a ghosthunt one day, Ive got a while though as im only 14!
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PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazboom,

Age has nothing to do with it! I started ghosthunting when I was 11 years old. Don't let age stop you! Educate yourself on ghost hunting techniques, gain experience by exposing yourself to an environment known to have anomalous activity as often as you can and keep a detailed journal of your experiences. One of the best things you can do is not to place any religious significance or definition to what you experience.

Why!? The religious meaning may fit on the surface but as with anything these entities have depth...more than most realize. Something that may seem evil is nothing more than a confused and terrified spirit. Just because it scares you doesn't mean its bad, it just means you got scared.

You have to always keep in mind there is only two things that are different between you and the ghost you are investigating. Your physical body and your experiences. Besides that nothing is different about you and it.

Here is something else that is very important to remember when reading other, so called investigators "information"! There is no such thing as a human spirit. When you die you are just you. No one has ever identified themselves as human once they transition. To some it even tends to confuse them when you ask the question or they won't answer at all.

Demons!? No such thing! Once again, as I mentioned before we are all the same except for our bodies (while living) and experiences. No soul/spirit is created spiritually equal. There are very powerful beings that can punch a whole right into our world, influence (only) our actions by way of our thoughts and decisions, and who have never lived. They mostly reside on a much higher level and have no interest or contact with us on the physical plane (I use the grossly inadequate words 'level' and 'plane' to describe the undescribable so don't think of it as a 3D place).
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There is no such thing as a human spirit. When you die you are just you. No one has ever identified themselves as human once they transition. To some it even tends to confuse them when you ask the question or they won't answer at all.

Demons!? No such thing! Once again, as I mentioned before we are all the same except for our bodies (while living) and experiences. No soul/spirit is created spiritually equal.

Wow.... I've never heard a view on the after life quite like this yours, Frank. It makes me feel even more insignificant than a single ant, here in the "ant farm of the Gods".... LOL! It actually does make sense though for the most part. The part I don't get is, you say we are all the same and there is no such thing as a human spirit, yet you said "No soul/spirit is created spiritually equal". Could you you explain this theory a little further, Nastradamus? Laughing

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Ahhh, you saved post 400 for me. How sweet!? Shocked Anyways, what I meant by that is I have seen so many sites calling spirits human and non-human (meaning disincarnate) or never lived and using that stigma as a negative attribute. We are all the same, in that we have a common goal and have the ability to become equals. That is not saying that we are all equal at this point in time or will be in the near future. There are much older beings with far more experience and control than us.

You say what I have written makes you feel more insignificant when it should make you feel more empowered. You, as a spiritual being have the potential of becoming something far more wonderful than you think of yourself now. What you believe is inconsequential, there is an ultimate truth Aedryan but you won't be able to understand it until you have the ability.
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PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice Frank, I know quite a lot about ghost hunts already as its the hot topic for TV shows in the UK, I will definately go on a hunt, there are loads of haunted locations right on my doorstep, i feel bad not taking advantage of them, all of my freinds are interested in the paranormal, so its very likely that i could organize one. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhyknow, dying to ask: What happened in your disasterous ouija session? Seems everyone warns against the boards, but I've never heard a firsthand story.
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PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMS, Rhyknow is long gone. He got himself banned from here quite awhile ago.

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