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PostPosted: Aug Thu 03, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryon, did you get my last email from my work address?
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PostPosted: Aug Thu 03, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, got it. Smile Thanks.
I have a response for you.
I want to convert another clip for you and put it out there. It's a very interesting clip that was shot by Barry Conrad and was in his "Unexplained Encounter." The orbs that were flying around literally insdie and through the woman. I slowed it down and have it in DV format where you can see quite a few orbs that you couldn't see in the TV show or the clip Barry put on line. I want to convert that and put it where you can get it. It's not my clip though so you know how that goes. I don't think Barry will get mad as long as I admit it's his video.

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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the video but I have to say the orbs and rods don't seem to pass through her as claimed on the video. Even though they are not lit while passing in from of her, I can see the shadow or anomaly itself passing in front of her on your slowed down footage. The lit speck that goes into her hair comes back out of her hair and not her head. Not one of the anomalies passing "through" her actually do, in my opinion! Look at it again and tell me you see them pass through her...! The anomalies are blinking; "lights on, lights off"! Laughing
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On another note...I finally found out who shot the great video. I have had this video (given to me by another investigator) forever and never knew who shot it. Take a look and see: http://darkwatchinc.com/videos.html

Aedryan, this is the video I sent you last year but longer and no sound! I have a lot of questions to ask these people. Wink
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you can find them! Dang that's an awsome video.

Note the light about where the head of a child might be and the darkness like a shadow below it.

Then again it might be an orb effect but it is very impressive and deserves to be on a show about the paranormal.

I'm going to be putting together a presentation for the Las Vegas, NV Universal Passing Over event and would love to include this clip in DV format on that video if the people who own it will sign a release for it. I will be selling the DVD's at the event with our own material on it and I have good reason to belive we will do good just to pay for our gas on that trip. Still if they want the video out there so people can see it I can help.

I could put an entire orb segment together and give them credit for their contribution.

I also put the clip the Hernandez Orbs Short on my AVI folder on line.
http://www.dream-link.org/AVI

This video clip shows spirits that are not ghosts flying through a woman's body and other orbs that reside within her body. Shot by Barry Conrad with a professional camera and the orbs are visible. Another one is one known as a Rod and it flys through her head twice during the video. The TV special was done by Barry Conrad "BarCon" productions "Unexplained Encounter."
http://www.barcon.com

I recorded the video from the TV special, moved it to the hard drive and created my clip from it showing things that were not so aparent in the origional video.

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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched the Hernandez clip perhaps 100 times, the orbs are inside of her body and passing through her body. I noticed that when I put that text over the video some of the orbs vanished and I'm thinking I shouldn't have done that. I still have the origional video though.

There are orbs about the size of golf balls that literally come up out of her chest and her shoulder. Fairly easy to see on the origional video once it's slowed down. Almost impossible to see on the full speed video.

The three little balls do fly through her shoulder but as you said when they do that there's a negitive effect that appears on the screen like when you look at a light bulb then close your eyes there's a dark spot there.

Even Mrs. Hernandez says she saw the orbs flying around and through her body. Barry Conrad saw them inside of her and so did their video expert. The thing I was pointing out was they never mentioned the golf ball size orbs that were moving around in her chest and shoulder.
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to try to rerender that Hernandez clip without the text in a non destructive method yet hopefully to have a managable file size.

I'll give ya the benifit of the doubt on that rod and the pingpong ball orbs for blinking a negitive effect at that instance when it appears they are passing through her head and shoulder. It is possible that's what they were doing but why did they both do that at that exact same instant when they were right between her body and the camera?

But when you see the orbs come up out of her chest and shoulder you will see the orbs are actually inside her body and moving around in there.

I've rendered another one, will have the same name but with the number 2 at the end of the file name. I'm going to go check it and make sure I can see the orbs inside her chest and shoulder. These do not fly thorugh her, they come up out of her then go back in again. Watch from the center to the right side of the screen and over the base of her neck.

It will take me a few minutes to get this file checked then uploaded.

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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aedryan and I had a discussion about this not too long ago where i took the stance that they could not pass through physical objects. My mind and ideas have changed since then and I now believe it is possible for this to happen. This is in light of new information....

So, in a clearer sense...I believe it is possible that they are passing through her, I just don't see it. Hopefully the new rendering will show it in more detail.
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got that file uploaded now and has the #2 at the end of the file. I rendered it at 100% at 4000 bit rate and removed the title over crap that caused the video to be rerendered and messed it up.

I watched it over and over again and I can see those three balls moving together, might be moving on an angle from far away and coming toward us then might pass through her shoulder, but might also blink out.

The rod however I can go frame by frame and see the rod enter just under her left eye and vanish. Then it come out the back of her head loops comes back in and comes out right over her left eye. There's no question this rod is moving at an angle to the camera moving away as it first appears and toward the camera when it comes back.

The other ping pong ball orbs come up out of her chest and left shoulder. Watch for that closely.

The little orb comes up out of her hair then goes back in but if you watch her head real close you will see that it's very active and appears more than twice in different places or there's more than one of those tiny orbs. I saw another one come out of her face right under her left eye as I was watching it this time that I had not seen until now.

These orbs are not ghosts, but they are spiritual energy and I'm not aware of spiritual energy that doesn't have some kind of signature in spiritual format. Some kind of information or structure.

Take a look at this new video and see if you can find out who shot that other video. That was very impressive. Also have you seen the Ghost Hunters light house investigation?
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will take a look at your new cut!

I have seen the Ghost hunters lighthouse investigation. We have had a similar investigation at one of our locations, where the entity was playing peek-a-boo with us. We had enough coverage with 5 video cameras, 4 sensors, and 5 roving still cameras in a much smaller space. There was no place to hide! Muah ha ha ha! Laughing

They caught some good footage but I am real skeptical of their evidence because of the shows entertainment factor. Being investigators at some point they know what activity to "create" if they need to for their audience. Some of there shows seemed fishy to me!

I sent you a response to your last email! Wink
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand entertianment factor. I used to shoot fishing shows. I shot the Great Outdoors with Barry Benton. Out of 13 shows that I shot only 3 or 4 of the fishing shows were ligitimate. All the rest of the shows were faked in order to sell the sponcers products.

None of that was my doing. They would call ahead and and hire a guide to go out and catch the fish. The fish were all ready in the live well on the boat when we got there to shoot the shows. They go out, hook the fish on the lure, put it into the water, turn the camera on and bingo they catch the fish. Fishermen and fishing show producers are the only people I know of who are as big a liars as our government. They would fit right in with the cover-up people.

Since the turds didn't pay me for working an entire year for them and shooting the 13 shows I have no reservations about telling on them. Another thing I learned was we were not the only ones who were shooting fishing and some hunting shows that were faked. If a company has something to sell they are generally not concerned if they lie to us to get us to buy their products.

The producer of the Ghost Hunters thinks very much like that and I wouldn't put anything past him for faking something on a show. After all he also produces that custom motorcycle building show and keeps the father and son yelling at each other as much as possible. That's why I don't watch it, but weaker minded people seem to get off on the conflict.

As for the actual Ghost Hunters I don't think they would like seeing ghosts or "things" faked in thier investigations. I've seen a full size shadow entity within arm's reach. That thing that went up the stairs looked very similar to what I saw.
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, I missed these last few posts somehow. That video clip from DarkWatchInc is awesome, Frank! I don't have an explanation for it....

Bryon, I can't get any of those files to open from directly inside of your directory for some reason. As for the clips posted on Barcon.com, I don't know if I would trust anything i've seen on that site to be honest. All of those clips just seem hokey to me, except for maybe the classic "Strange Balls Of Light" video. I've captured tons of orbs on video that look exactly like the one that passes in front of the woman, only they're much larger.

- Aedryan
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your quicktime player trying to play them? If it is you must either first download the clip completely to your computer and play it from there or completely remove Quicktime. I've had nothing but trouble caused by the Quicktime player in both of my computers. I had to remove it from both computers. I've not managed to get any response from the Quicktime people. They do not care if their software works or not, or if it messes up our computers. Those clips must be played in the Windows Media Player.

Barry Conrad is not a paranormal investigator. He was trying to help Mrs. Hernandes when he shot that video thinking maybe it would be worth documenting. Then he made the TV show out of it. He didn't fake any of the things he shot and had another man go over all the video just to give his opinion about what Barry had shot.

Do you know what it's like for a person to see a ghost for the first time and suddenly realize they are real? How that affects a person's mind and sets them toward learning all they can about the subject? You know they are real and you want to know more about it. Then try to explain that to someone who's never seen one and doesn't believe. You want all the real and true evidence you can get your hands on to show your friends and family you are not completely crazy. When a person sees something fantastic and knows these things exist, what they are and what they do they do everything they can to find the video or the evidence to prove it. That's very much what I do. I doubt Barry Conrad was imagnitive enough to fake something so obscure so perfectly. Those really are spirit orbs flying arond inside Mrs. Hernandez. Not ghosts of the dead, but spirits of another kind that access people's own spiritual energy for what ever reason. Fears and concerns, depression, anxiety and God only knows what, it's all spiritual energy that comes and goes.

Spirits similar to those change people's personalities. They drive the emotions. They generate thought patterns. Some are good and some are not good. As yet there's no real way that I know of to tell the difference except for a psychic medium who can isolate individual spirits. I was thrilled and surprised to see Barry's video because I've known these spirits exist and do the things they do for many years. My problem was I had no way to show anyone else, until now.

Those videos work, try downloading them and viewing them from your hard drive. They are just DVD mpg format files just like a DVD would play.
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PostPosted: Aug Fri 04, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aedryan,

I emailed them at 9:43AM CST this morning and haven't got a response yet. I will have to check my email Monday morning to see if they responded on any details for the video and location.

Bryon,

Come on...you know all of us fishermen are liars. We always talk about the one that got away but hurry up and filet the ones that didn't. LOL

Yeah, I don't trust any of those Ghost hunting Shows, so far...too hokey and they all have a "staged" feeling. I don't know, maybe I;m just cynical! Hopefully, Aedryan's will go back into production and will air. Then we will be able to give Aedryan hell!

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