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Aedryan Methyus
Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study
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Heya GM,
There are at least a dozen logical explanations for any of the following "classic signs that your house is haunted":
- Seeing things move out of the corners of your eyes
- Getting chills/goosebumps
- Hearing noises/voices/footsteps, etc
- Strange odors
- The feeling of "not being alone" or being watched
- Appliances/lights/stereos/televisions turning off and on by themselves or malfunctioning
- Items disappearing and reappearing
- Strange animal behavior
- Feelings of being touched
- Scratches appearing on your body
I'll admit that there were 3 incidents in our last house, for which I had no explanation - I saw a ghostly white figure swoop up into the air and vanish and I also heard disembodied voices with my own ears, saying words clear as day on two seperate occassions. Two words were spoken the first time - "You're Sick!" and one word the second time - "BOO!".
I will also admit that back when we were constantly going ghost hunting and doing investigations, I found that my imagination would get the best of me at times. I went through all of the "feelings of being watched" and "seeing things move out of the corners of my eyes" BS on a pretty regular basis. I mean, we were going ghost hunting and reviewing evidence and talking about ghosts CONSTANTLY. I think that's enough to make anyone a little bit jumpy and make their minds play tricks on them a bit after awhile! I find it odd that I have not experienced ANY of these things whatsoever since i've been away from ghost hunting for awhile, don't you? And I just bought and moved into a huge, 3 story (+ a basement), 130 year old house. Go figure....
For more of my thoughts on that particular subject, please take a look at the following article I wrote:
Ghost Hunting And Psychological Damage
From my recollection, jumpy kangaroo pretty much said that she didn't physically see or hear all of the things she has described. Didn't she say, all of this information she is receiving from these "ghosts" have came to her in her mind?
- Aedryan
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ghostlymom
Infatuation With Ghosts
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Hiya Aedryan,
Of course you make many valid points.  When we first moved in and I was reading and going on every site I could to get any knowledge of what was going on in my house the house seemed so very active all the time. Of course I was scared to death and every little " bump in the night" and we where sure it had to be the ghosts. Now that I am doing our own investigations and learned the true facts about the spirit world the house is just not so active anymore.
So I have to wonder. Ok so I know that now we have to look for logical explanations. I have to give it a break sometimes cuz like you said your mind starts going into overdrive. I also think that one you get used to whats around you and vice a versa. Our ghosts know we are here for the duration and they are just going to have to deal with it. I have no doubt my house is haunted. There is still times something happens that scares the pants off me. ( Like today I came home to find my sofa table that has like a million pictures on it in the middle of my livingroom with nothing knocked off it. ) No logical explanation for that!!! I have a 200lb dog that loves to lay under the table beneath a window but if he got up and moved it which he is capable of doing I would think something would of fell off. In closing I loved the article you wrote. We have been on an investigation almost every weekend for the last couple months. The funny thing is I have yet to get the feelings I do in my own home. I guess nothing would shock me at this point.... I live with it all. But like you stated you just have to take a breather and find something else to occupy the gray matter. 
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Aedryan Methyus
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| ghostlymom wrote: |
Now that I am doing our own investigations and learned the true facts about the spirit world the house is just not so active anymore.
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The only facts about the spirit world is, there are no facts....  No one even knows for sure that there IS a spirit world....
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.... today I came home to find my sofa table that has like a million pictures on it in the middle of my livingroom with nothing knocked off it. No logical explanation for that!!! I have a 200lb dog that loves to lay under the table beneath a window but if he got up and moved it which he is capable of doing I would think something would of fell off.
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I'd have to say your dog is a pretty logical explanation. Maybe he was laying under it and when he stood up, he dragged it across the floor with him? Is your dog's back tall enough that the table legs could come up off of the floor when he stands up? Does your floor have carpet or a smooth/slippery surface, like hardwood or linoleum?
- Aedryan
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ghostlymom
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Yes you are right in the fact that their is no true facts. I guess what I meant by that is not to believe everything you read and hear. If I listened to what people told me I would have lucifer himself living in my home and a vortex in my basement that every ghostie around is coming and going through. I just now no that being terrified and selling my dream home is a little extreme.
I would have a hard time seeing the dog move this table without him knocking everything off it. It's a very long narrow table. Full of family pics in frames. He cannot stand under the table so yeah I guess he would be tall enough to pick it up off it's legs when he stood up. It is on carpeting though and was moved a good distance. Everything is possible though I guess. If that is what happened I would of loved to catch that on video.
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WhiteProphecy
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Location: Ohio
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Hey there aedryan. It's been awhile since i was last here... however ive been busy with work and the like...But enough about that...
I would like to know where you get your data, and the claim that "sensitives" ALWAYS have mental illness? The reason i ask this, is well... as some of you well know, i consider myself a sensitive.. and as for your claim that ALL of us are just crazy... i can claim, and know that i do not suffer from any mental illness... I have been seen by a few psychologists, and psychiatrists in the 21 years of my life, and none has ever come up with a diagnosis of any mental illness. In fact the last one i saw (a few years back) said that the only thing wrong with me was a lack of motivation (it was while i was still in school and my mother wanted to know if there was a reason i wasn't doing well in school). Not only that, but i am myself working towards a psychology degree, and have thus been in contact with psychologists for almost 2 years, and not one has yet to say anything ( and yes i do talk to them about my problems if somthing comes up that i feel i need help, or outside views).
Not to sound rude, or obnoxious, but i would just like to know why you feel you are able to put the label of ALWAYS... i mean that's a pretty strong word... it is so diffinitive.
And before you ask, the only known case of mental illness even related to my family comes from a woman my uncle (my mom's brother) married. So it isnt even blood related to me. Not that i don't realize that some cases go undiagnosed and that the possibility is there that someone in my family has a mental illness...
Thanks for readin.
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em
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| Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Everyone,
I think what Aedryan is getting at, is that most people that suffer from Mental Illness do have episodes where they will hallucinate and see things that aren’t there (this can be from the Illness it’s self or from the Meds they are put on). A lot and I do mean a lot of people suffer from some sort of Mental Illness and don’t even know about it!!! Please don’t be upset for him asking, he needs to know just like a doctor, how can you diagnose a problem if you don’t tell them the symptoms, and if you do suffer from a mental illness it doesn’t mean that what you see/feel/sense/ isn’t real just that it could be something medical not Paranormal!!! You just can’t rule these things out!!!
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Aedryan Methyus
Prestigious Innovator Of Ghost Study
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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| WhiteProphecy wrote: |
I would like to know where you get your data, and the claim that "sensitives" ALWAYS have mental illness?
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I say ALWAYS, because pretty much everyone (I can almost say EVERYONE) i've ever spoken with, who says they see/hear/feel/sense/talk to dead people admit to having been diagnosed with SOME form of mental illness, whether it be Bipolar Disorder, Schizophrenia, Manic Depression, Schizotypal Personality Disorder or all of the above. I wish I would have been keeping track all along, but a really close estimate would be, out of 20 or so "sensitives" i've spoken with over the past 2 or 3 years, maybe only 2 of them "said" they hadn't been diagnosed with anything. That's a pretty obvious pattern in my book....
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i consider myself a sensitive.. and as for your claim that ALL of us are just crazy... i can claim, and know that i do not suffer from any mental illness... I have been seen by a few psychologists, and psychiatrists in the 21 years of my life, and none has ever come up with a diagnosis of any mental illness. In fact the last one i saw (a few years back) said that the only thing wrong with me was a lack of motivation....
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I don't mean to be rude or insensitive either, but if you've had the need to be seen by "A FEW psychologists, and psychiatrists", isn't that an indicator that there may be a problem somewhere? Did you tell these few psychologists, and psychiatrists that you are seeing/hearing/sensing/feeling/talking to spirits and/or otherworldly beings, etc? I happen to be very close friends with someone in the paranormal community who has some mental problems and we've had this discussion many times. This person even attests that doctors will pretty much automatically diagnose a person with one of the said mental illnesses with the slightest mention of such experiences. I mean, let's be honest here, that's just not normal....
Before ya stomp off mad now, please take a moment to read my theories about sensitives here:
My Theories About Sensitives
As you'll see, i'm not necessarily saying that sensitives are just a bunch of nut jobs, but I do think there is a very strong liklihood that the things they experience are due to a mental illness, one way or the other. If you disagree with my theories, please be sure to post your rebuttals in that thread....
- Aedryan
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WhiteProphecy
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| Posted: Jul Tue 03, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Aedryan, i posted in that string you said to post, and was wondering if you had read it yet... or if you had no opinions in what is said... no big hurry or anything, was just wondering
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AbranaBonney
Curious About Ghosts
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Location: Arroyo Seco, NM.
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As for my own experiences, where, I came from, Doctors attempted to "diagnose" me with whatever the latest "fashionable" "Psychiatric Problem Craze" was.
No one could ever prove any of it was true.
None of the medications given, Ever worked on me.
All I feel like, was it was Society's way of trying to "Shut me up."
I have had every known "Label" thrown on me at one time or another, i simply defied it as best that I could.
No one should have any right to Label Anyone as Anything, without the Individual's Expressed Permission.
It is hurtful and Harmful to the esteems of those whom "Labels" are thrown upon.
See, thing is, I am Native American, I have been known for 2 Lifetimes now as a Healer and a Teacher of the Old Ways.
My beliefs keep me from accepting the "Labels" that Society throws on others, including myself.
In turn, it keeps that kind of stress from getting to me.
It makes me a better person and so would it others as well.
If something happens, then I don't question it, I attempt instead, to understand and be at peace with it.
You see, I am also Sensitive, to the point that I DO See, Hear, Feel things that others and Society is at a loss to explain.
I am not afraid of these Unseen things.
in fact, mostly, I open my heart to it, to Lovingly help Souls that are "Trapped" on our plain to move on.
They appreciate this and often will return but once, to Hug me and thank me for helping them.
It is fulfilling and Heartwarming.
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| Posted: Jul Sat 14, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: Im crazy |
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Hau Jumpy,
Ive seen spirits and Ghost.. Ive been in native sweat lodges where they call upon them. and yes the come and our present. |
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curbskma1
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| ghostlymom wrote: | Ok so I have to pose the question....
I do not see or hear ghosts on a regular basis, Although I did see a man at the top of my stairs, have caught shadows moving out of the corner of my eyes and do hear talking that sounds as if it's a radio station not quite in tune. I cannot make out a converstation. I do talk with my ghosts because sometimes it seems to help. Not that I hear them talk back. I just tell them to quit banging around in the middle of the night when I am trying to sleep. I also can tell sometimes when something is around. I get that creeped out feeling, hair standing up on the back of my neck and goose bumps on my goose bumps. Do I need to see a shrink as well? I do not have any form of mental illness, although I do take narcotic pain meds. I dont think I hallucinated any of these things. I feel sometimes it does come along with the territory but as you state not on a regular basis. |
Hi , i belive in most things you are saying i do belive you can talk to them , but you have to have a real damn good reason why they're gonna wanna talk to you! ...
I was bout 4 or 5 , i woke up to what i thought was my nan standing in front of me ( living in sydney australia ) i lived in melbourne . it wasnt till a few years later i said to my nan "i remember seeing you or a lady that looked like you in my room standing infront of my toy chest next to my bedroom door , wearing a white dress and yellow ribbon around her waist"
she then told me that was not her and that was infact the disprection of her dead mother and the dress she was berried in had yelow flowers in the pocket
many years went by and i had maybe 2 other experances i would now say where from another dimension/time frame .. clock radio working with out no batties or power cord .. a man walking past my kicthen door into my room .. walking into my room and no one being there ( all between the ages of 5-7)
Now im nearly 21 years old and its 8 months since one of my best friends timothy david williams hung him self on may 21st 2008 in yarraman , melbourne victoria at the dandenong show grounds
the night of the 21/05/08 i had earlyer tryed commiting scucide over looseing my temper at a bad day with my parents and girlfriend , before being aware of tims death . once i finaly calmed down i started conplaining of "some sort of life inside me , something so strong i cant explain it but now i feel like im gonna burst but im not angry im just full of life" i finaly got to sleep that night and woke up to a text msg from tims phone saying "chris its tims sister , tim died yesterday " now like i saaid ive had bout 3 ghost incounters i can remember , 1 i found out quickly was a ghost , and when i was bout 9 i was in a school sports day at this park tim died in and i prayed 2 god to win the raffle and funny enough my name was called out 2 sceconds later , so that was my 3 ghosts and 1 god experance .. for the rest of my life i seemed be able to prodict things much easyer then my peers , now tim was dead and it was 3 days after he had died
and my friend from brisbane had flown down and we walked thru the drains me and tim would walk thru to see each other , as we got to the spot i would see tim most times , i turned to my friend ( who had never met tim) and said dude i can see tims face over yarraman in the sky but its life less! . i then told him we must go to this guys house only 5 minutes away becos he knew tim ,and i never rang him 3 days ago. Long story short .
Brad slowly started to explain how he had seen tim hanging from the tree the morning he died . 1 of his mates came over and i explained how i heard tims laughter in this persons house and how i had seen his face in the sky . he said make the most of this it dosnt last long ... i felt glad he belived me but didnt know what to expect .. time has gone on and ive learnt all i need to do to talk to tim is ask him nething i want or show him or ... just be around my friends and we can see him and feel him and watch him do trippy things that just make us smile and laugh .. it may seem crazy but tonight we we're driving past the park he died and we had an old foxtel set top box in the car and i turned to my mate and said to him .. we dont need it any more should give it to him he'd like foxtel i rekon and he smiled and said yeah man thru it into th epark as we go past fro the car.. and i didnt feel sad but i felt as if we had both just SEEN HIM AND SPOKEN TO HIM and the smile on my face and the smile on my mates .. was the 1st recation 2 tims reply ... and then when i got home i walked in an went 2 ask my mum whos in my room and then relised i had just gotten home and no1 was in my room , and then i found my self finding out and reading things that have helped me ( witch i belive is a true spirit guide , witch i belive is how u talk to the dead and i belive u have to ahve a really damn good reason to talk to the dead b4 u get any replys, becos every1s got there own shit to do... just becos there dead dosnt mean there energy isnt supporting there daughters daughters grandchilden . and i belive why i was shown the 3 ghost experiances and the 1 god experance was that it would all fall into place when tim died , so i could deal with his death and witch 1 day unfortinaly my mothers and grandmothers 2
i know i wont ever see my nans mum again , but only 1 month ago did i find out my nan was only 20 when she died and she had to go past her grave everrday , yet shes never seen her... since her death .. these things show them selfs 4 a reson.. i dont think its right to just call apon sumbodies energy for no reson and there for why so much is perseved as bullshit becos you make it bullshit? u wouldnt go up to ur next door nieghbour becos u heard them say something then watch there house in the night and take fotos ... YOU"D GO TO JAIL! ... come on...  thats just quitely .. and who knows maybe tims helped me write this little bit of info
i guess what im trying to say is .. if some1 or something wants to give u a msg its going to , and ive found usally it isnt what u 1st think , u dont need to drill your brain bout it , u just have to switch back on when you hear sum1 say sumfin that u think was odd u heard them say ( wen walking past in a busy shoping centre or something) .. only once have i truely spoken to tim on the same level and that was 1 night i fell asleep ( 98% percent of the time i fall asleep since he died i can see my room with my eyes shut just b4 i fall asleep , and i can start moving around slightly ) and i remember seeing him sitting on a couch ( the last time i ever saw him we sat on a couch and spoke for bout 5 hours straight ) and he was sitting there and it was all white around us and the couch was facein the oppsite way as if it we were looking at us sitting on the couch in this time frame but at the reflection in the mirror and i remember asking him is this really you? and we stood up and walked to a table and he had a pen in his hand and he wrote his graffiti tag onto the paper and by the way he wrote it i could tell it was him becos no1 could do the R and B like he could in CURBS and we sat back down and i rememeber saying to him why am i the only one that can see you? and he just smiled at me and laughed softly and i woke up ... with in the following 2 weeks i had a number of friends , a couple who had never met tim... 1 story stood out the most , witch was .. Tom said : i was driving wit my mate and there was a car in front of us and i was starting to feel panic and i didnt know why and my mate driving said you'll be right tim arhh i mean tom . a couple seconds later the car in front of them hit a pot hole and crashed into a house : Tom came straight on the net to tell me ... "I FELT YOUR FRIEND TIM 2nite HE LOOKED AFTER ME!"
now take this how you like , but tom oor his friend have no friends called tim . there was no reson for his friend to call him tim .... but we both belive this was why when i asked tim why can only i see you .. he smiled
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